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If true, it's a good hire. I was at Kansas when Clint and his brother played there. He played under Glen Mason (who had success at Kansas and Minnesota). While at Kansas he worked under Bill Young most of the time (even when was listed as Co-Defensive Coordinator it was really Bill Young running the defense). Young has been a DC at several schools (Kansas, OU, Miami, Ohio St and now Okie St). Special teams were really good when he was there. The last two years at Kansas he was the man running the defense (Young left to take job at Miami). The KU defenses weren't that good during those two years but the Big 12 had awesome offenses and KU didn't have a lot of talent. Some thought he might have been over his head a little but he didn't have a lot of support (staff wasn't overly experienced on defensive side of ball and Mangino was offensive coach). He ended up at WKU because he got screwed in Mangino mess. He was one of three coaches kept by KU to keep things running while they looked for a new coach. Most people assumed he'd get a spot on the new staff. When Gill was hired, none of the old KU coaches were kept so he had to scramble to find a job. Looking over stats, WKU defense did a pretty good job this year. I know recruiting isn't the main function of a coordinator, but Clint was a solid recruiter at Kansas. He has real good connections with the Juco coaches in Kansas (surprisingly good talent in Jayhawk Conference). Since he spent over a decade in Big 12 country he should help open some doors up. Most people I know consider Clint a good guy and I know the players at Kansas loved him.

WESTERN KENTUCKY'S, that's who. 2009 Total Defense= 118th, 478.25 Total Yards Per Game. 2010 Total Defense= 68th, 380.17 Total Yards Per Game. 2009 Pass Defense= 81st, 233.42 Yards Per Game 2010 Pass Defense= 37th, 202.92 Yards Per Game. 2009 Rushing Defense= 118th, 244.83 Yards Per Game. 2010 Rushing Defense= 86th, 177.92 Yards Per Game. That's a pretty solid turnaround for 9 months of work. Rick

From Football Scoop: <A href="http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop">http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop</A><BR><BR>North Texas: We have confirmed that Dan McCarney has hired Western Kentucky defensive coordinator Clint Bowen for the same position.<BR><BR><A href="http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bowen_clint00.html">http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bowen_clint00.html</A><BR><BR><IMG src="http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/kan/sports/genrel/auto_headshot/2061452.jpeg"><BR><BR>Clint Bowen, an assistant on the University of Kansas staff the last 12 seasons including the last four as defensive coordinator, has been named WKU's defensive coordinator. Bowen also previously served as the Kansas special teams coordinator for five seasons in addition to various stints coaching the Jayhawks safeties, running backs and tight ends. He helped Kansas post a 3-1 bowl record during his tenure, including a 24-21 win over Virginia Tech in the 2008 Orange Bowl. Kansas finished the 2007 season with a 12-1 record and No. 7 national ranking in both the Associated Press and ESPN/USA Today coaches polls.<BR><BR>Bowen served as the Kansas defensive coordinator the last two seasons after spending the 2006 and 2007 seasons as co-defensive coordinator. He also coached the Jayhawks' safeties from 2003-09. A former Kansas standout player, Bowen was promoted to co-defensive coordinator in February 2006 and to defensive coordinator in January of 2008. Prior to his promotion, Bowen spent five years as KU's special teams coordinator.<BR><BR>The 2008 Jayhawk defense forced 25 turnovers and recorded 29 sacks as nine different players recorded interceptions and 14 different Jayhawks registered sacks. Five players on the defensive side of the ball earned All-Big 12 recognition at the end of the year, including first-team selection Darrell Stuckey, one of Bowen's safeties. Kansas also ranked third in the Big 12 in pass efficiency defense and fourth in rushing defense. The Jayhawks ranked 28th nationally against the run, allowing just 123 yards per game on the ground. Kansas closed the season with a 56-21 win over Minnesota in the Insight Bowl.<BR><BR>Under Bowen's direction KU has had a safety earn All-Big 12 Honorable Mention honors or better every year since 2003. Stuckey, a national honors candidate in 2009 and an All-Big 12 First Team selection in 2008, recorded 98 tackles, five interceptions and seven passes broken up in 2008. Justin Thornton, who started the first half of the season at free safety and the last half of the year at cornerback, was fifth on the team in tackles. Stuckey also led the Jayhawks in total tackles (93) and solo tackles (63) in 2009.<BR><BR>As co-defensive coordinator in 2007 the KU defense produced one of its best seasons in recent history. Kansas held its opponents to just 94.8 rushing yards per game, the second-fewest allowed in KU history (83.2 in 2005). The defense held six opponents (all Big 12 foes) to less than 80 yards rushing and fewer than 200 yards passing. The 317.3 total yards per game were the second fewest allowed in the last 26 years (303.2 in 2005) by the Jayhawks.<BR><BR>During the 2005 season, Bowen guided KU's kickoff coverage unit which ended the season as the top coverage team in the Big 12. In addition, KU's kick return (5th Big 12, 20.3 yards per return) and punt return (4th Big 12, 12.1 yards per return) units both ranked near the top of the conference. Kansas capped the season with a 42-13 win over Houston in the Fort Worth Bowl.<BR><BR>In 2004, Bowen directed the team's kickoff return unit, which ranked third in the Big 12, averaging 21.8 yards per return. KU's kickoff coverage unit also ranked third in the league after allowing just 17.2 yards per return. Bowen worked with the running backs during 2002 and tight ends in 2001. <BR><BR>A native of Lawrence and a prep star at Lawrence High School, Bowen worked as a defensive graduate assistant coach at KU in 1998 and 1999. He served as assistant director of football operations during the 2000 season. In addition to his experience at KU, Bowen served one season (1997) as a graduate assistant at Minnesota with his college coach, Glen Mason.<BR><BR>Bowen was a hard-hitting defensive back for the Jayhawks in 1992-93 following one season at Butler County Community College. He led the KU defense in total tackles in 1993 with 114 total stops. That figure ranks as the third-most single-season tackles by a Jayhawk defensive back in school history.<BR><BR>Bowen was instrumental in helping the Jayhawks to an 8-4 final record, a No. 22 national ranking and a win over Brigham Young in the 1992 Aloha Bowl. He was the recipient of the school's Willie Pless Tackler of the Year Award following his senior season in 1993.<BR><BR>He is the product of a football family. His father (Charley Bowen) was a two-time high school All-American at Lawrence High School and his older brother (Charley, Jr.) was a four-year letter winner as a defensive back for the Jayhawks and played in the Arena Football League.<BR><BR><BR>Coaching Career<BR>Hired in Feb. 2010 at Defensive Coordinator at Western Kentucky<BR><BR>2008-09: Kansas (defensive coordinator/safeties)<BR>2006-07: Kansas (co-defensive coordinator/safeties)<BR>2003-05: Kansas (safeties/special teams coordinator)<BR>2002: Kansas (running backs/special teams coordinator)<BR>2001: Kansas (tight ends/special teams coordinator)<BR>2000: Kansas (assistant director of football operations)<BR>1999: Kansas (defensive graduate assistant)<BR>1998: Kansas (graduate assistant)<BR>1997: Minnesota (defensive graduate assistant)

These hires are great! All BCS-quality guys. Bowen part of the Kansas program that climbed all the way to the Orange Bowl in 2007. McCarney with Florida. Canales with Arizona and ties to great coaches out west. This is a serious coaching staff. If they start winning big here, the sky is the limit on where we can go. Many here nitpick about which bigger small conference to join. But, if these are the types of coaches we can now draw, and we win and fill that stadium, forget about the MWC and CUSA...go straight for the Big 12-2. They are now short a couple of teams, and we are right in their geographic wheelhouse. And Big 12 pol Donnie Duncan attending for McCarney's hiring. Somebody pinch me!

If anyone reads this entire post, I just want you to know that I really feel sorry for you and will keep you in my prayers...

If Clint is indeed your DC, then you guys are getting a very good young DC. There is a strong amount of KU fans that would love to see Clint come back as head coach someday. He is very personable, hard worker, very good recruiter, and he only is getting better. Clint has has some very good moments and he has had some rough moments while he was at KU. Sadly some of his rough moments at KU were due to multiple reasons. First off he was basically thrown into the fire as DC after Bill Young left for Miami. Secondly he was having to adjust the same time the BIG XII was seeing the greatest offensive passing offenses in leagues history. Lastly he was being hamstrung by Coach Mangino on many personnel matters... it helped attributed to Mangino's downfall as well. Is Clint perfect? By no means is he, but most KU fans still love the guy to death. I know Clint has known Big Mac for years. Btw, on the recruiting front while at KU, Bowen mostly recruited Kansas, Kansas City itself, Kansas Juco's, and Dallas/Ft. Worth.

Back to the original question: Moisturizer, vegetarian diet and 8 solid hours of sleep per night.

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How many of those WKU players will be playing for UNT next season?

Dr. Seuss, I am just curious. What is your major? I really hope it is not English or NT is in BIG trouble Just playing around... seriously, glad to have you as a new fan. The best way out of the Belt is a combination of winning and our potential. The WAC has now invited us 3 times. 1 of those invites was made when Fresno, Hawaii, and Nevada were still in the league. Another invite came while Boise was still committed to the WAC. We are an attractive school with lots of "potential" - with wins and full stands, we will be unstoppable. It all comes in Baby Steps. The Belt was actually a step down from the Big West in terms of competitive football. Those BW teams were salty and rarely lost their bowl. The Belt is always going to be held back by some of the poor schools. As long as the Belt has member schools like ULM, with their run down stadium, $8 million dollar budget, and $160K coach - the Belt will always be perceived as a Southern MAC. North Texas, FAU, FIU, MTSU - we are all upping the ante and those dollars will eventually pay off. I keep seeing comments about NT finally making the commitment that it should have years ago (with a big hire like Coach Mac) - well, the student fee will be paying for our new Coach. RV has tried several times to get the fee in place. It's not like we haven't tried - the interest has just been low. I really wish that I could take you back to 1996-2000.. heck, even into the first couple of bowl years of 2001 and 2002... we have come a LONG way. Tailgating did not exist, it was actually illegal to drink in the parking lot before games before RV got here. There was a small group from this very message board that actually brought BACK the Mean Green Club. The fund raising arm of the Athletic Department was called the Mean Green Club in the 70's but like most things at NT - some jackhole came along and wanted to change it and make it more "current"... That lack of tradition has really hurt the school over the years. Our program had the NT Foundation as a fundraising arm but the school would not share alumni names with the program because they didn't want anyone to divert funding to the athletic department (from the academic side). We were the Eagles, then the Mean Green, then the Mean Green Eagles, then we went back to Mean Green. We have changed our school name three times in my lifetime - I am sure that there are posters on this board that have seen the school name change a 4th time. All that being said - you are in the right place at the right time. I can remember standing in the rain during a Big West game with about 30 fans and the band. We were lucky to get a couple thousand to a game. There was one year where a couple of the fans/donors and I stood on the Mean Green Club Deck and looked out over a crowd of less than 1,000. We actually counted the people and I am too embarrased to post the amount. The deck was about 1/5th the size back then - I think that the capacity was about 150. It was like a deck that you would build onto the back of your house. Ben E Keith has renovated and expanded it over the years but it started out as a donor deck with free beer. I was able to be on it because I was a radio sponsor for my bar during those years - it was the best deal in the world. I think that I paid about $1200 bucks a year and was treated like royalty. Not only did I have a radio commercial during every sporting event (played over and over) - the department threw in tickets to various events, deck time, press box passes, field passes, and I even got to travel with the team for some road games. THAT is where we were a decade ago. We have come a LONG way. We have a long way to go; but to understand how proud some of us are (re: the crowds, tailgating, and current fan support) - and not confuse that pride with being content - you just had to be there. Hopefully you will have your own stories someday. I hope that you are still cheering for the Mean Green and I sincerely hope that you will be explaining to some new Freshman or Sophomore how things were SOOOO much different when you were in college. And they will give you a reply - very similar to the one that you will post after you read this - with their recipe for the next level. Just smile and encourage them to "keep it up" - we need all the fans that we can get, now and 10 years from now

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I have an idea, let's all bag on a guy we've never seen play and just committed to play for our school. Who's in?

Florida doesn't need quitters. Maybe next year, we'll hear that Meyer texted dong photos and harassed Tim Tebow.

I hope we hired someone from WKU.

It wasn't a valid question, it was a shot.

I know people want to question the hire of a WKU DC, but a lot of what lead to the defeat of WKU was turnovers -- the 2 fumble recoveries we converted to points (14). One of those turnovers came on a kickoff return late in the 4th by WKU that gave us a very short field.

I'll admit that I quit arguing with him when i realized I didn't really care enough to read through all of that. I trust that if there was anything relevant in there.. nobody else saw it either. Therefore, I win.

Todge or toad or troll or whatever... no one is reading the long post... again.. be concise and maybe, just maybe, it wont look like you got released a little early from the institution... Anyone can spew crap... not everyone can make sense doing it... sorry to break the news to you, but you fall into the latter group. Still dislike SMU... and did I mention Kaplan... Fluffer

Here is a visual representation of how I think Fouts should be demolished...imagine all the allusions we could make to conference realignment if we destroyed our old stadium with falling dominoes.

About 2 weeks ago this kid shows up to my neighbor's house for a birthday party while I was sitting on the driveway listening to us play K-state. He heard the game and asked me if that was the North Texas game. When I replied yes he told me his name and proudly proclaimed his commitment as a recruit. He talked about the excitement of the new stadium and how he liked Coach Cannales. The kid is a beast, someone that's looks to be feared on an offensive line. One of those guys that made me think the future is bright if we can recruit talent like him.

UNT has an obvious hated rival: UNT. We have met the enemy and he is us.

Their rushing defense would have been even better if they hadn't had to play against Lance Dunbar.

I'm so proud of my adopted player! Craig, you made your poppa proud. Now, go out and be a great NT alum. Best of luck in prepping for the draft.

I'm gaining on some people. Yes, indeed...GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING FOR UNT FOOTBALL!!!! Go Mean Green!

KRAM?

For any of you concerned about his Texas ties....no worries...cause he has pulled a ton of talent from TX to play at Kansas. He apparently has an ability to target RBs as well. 2009 2008 2007 2006

I don't follow professional basketball that much, so will probably miss seeing this classic.

Perhaps I am missing something. Did we hire Coach Bowen? Nevermind, just saw the other thread.

When is HH ever a happy place?

A pee wall is where you make it.

Not exactly the same as this guy, but... http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigeast/2006-11-07-louisville-okoye_x.htm http://www.nfl.com/players/amobiokoye/careerstats?id=OKO541722 SMU also has that kid from Estonia who had never played football, but was a good field athlete. I think he's set the NCAA record for blocked kicks now. The great Walter Payton didn't play football until his junior year of high school. Then, he went to a small school for college. He did okay in the NFL later on as well, some would say. This current Chicago Bear didn't start playing until he was in junior college: http://www.nfl.com/players/johanasiata/careerstats?id=ASI059326 The thing is, if the article is correct, this is more than just signing a physically big kid and hoping he works out. Okafor seems to excel at sports where you also need coordination, like basketball, and strength and agility in track and field. I feel better about this kid than some of the risks we took under Dodge for guys who were just physically big, but never hit the playing field. I'm thinking of the JUCO OL from Mississippi who was a giant, but never played. Give me the "project" with athletic ability, not just some big kid. This kid Okafor sounds like he is already a willing worker on and off the field. How can we complaining about a kid who excels in the classroom and in whatever sport he attempts?

I wonder if the CAN academy will take broken down stadiums?

This team lost to FIU at home. Like he said, one at a time.

Stupid. The AD is the same one who ran Solich out of Nebraska and replaced him with Bill Callahan. During a rebuilding year this season, Wannstedt got Pitt a share of the Big East title. Amazing how stupid some of the "bigger" programs are.

Don't forget many of us, including the very man who owns and has run this website the past 14 years learned to be Mean Green during the 1-AA Corky years. Rick

Actually UT-Dallas would become UNT-Dallas North campus. Why do we have 3 different state university sytems operating institutions in the North Texas region??? Originally I just meant to say something mean about ULM, but I ended up restructuring public higher education in our state. I was so excited about this new vision that I decided to take it to the next level. Texas faces dire budget shortfalls. To address critical needs, state government should be organized around 5 administrative regions. This would include higher education which should be arranged into 5 - and only 5 – state university systems. Accordingly you would have the UNT System, UET System, UST System, UWT System and UCT System. Oklahoma's rivalry with the University of Central Texas' flagship institution in Austin would lose meaning. The current rivalry is an embarrassment to the state of Texas anyway. How can lil ol' Oklahoma stand up by itself to the great state of Texas and its 25 million citizens? It should take a 5 or 6-state University of the Midwest to stand up to a singular University of Texas. UT's failure to utterly dominate this 'rivalry' is a clear sign of the failure of the tired historic arrangement. The Red River Rivalry would take on more meaning when OU is facing its closest competition across the river, and once the new reality takes hold, UNT will demonstrate on behalf of all Texans that one fifth of Texas is better than all of Oklahoma. Of course as we know, UNT represents MORE than one fifth of Texas, and economically it represents the best of Texas. With a fair share of the state's total funding for higher education, UNT will be able to meet the full responsibilities of its role and assume an appropriate status of prominence, and likewise the institutions in the other systems will assume their appropriate positions.

That is how I read it the first time...

From what I understand, Fouts will remain a while longer. It will remain as a track facility until a new one can be built across the highway (probably near the new tennis courts). However, I don't think a track facility is in the budget in the near future. I'm also not sure, but I would suspect that the Green/White game will be in Fouts again this year. So, you may not have seen the last football at Fouts, just the last opponent.

You do realize that bolding well over half of your post completely defeats the purpose of bolding anything right? They must not teach common sense at SMU...you know...the school you have no affiliation with at all...

There were two residence halls built with private money: Santa Fe and Mozart Square. Those two buildings were taken over by Housing entirely in 2002 or 2003 (can't quite remember which). Since that time, the university has build the following residence halls: Victory Hall, Traditions Hall, Legends Hall, and Honors Hall. There have been plans for a twin of Victory Hall over by the new stadium, but the plan as I have seen it was always to build it after the AC and other things were completed on the Eagle Point property. So to say that "many" of the halls were built with private money is incorrect. Of the 12 current residence halls, only two (16.6%) were not build by the university initially. That also doesn't take into account Kendall Hall (torn down now) or any of the other builds that were originally residence halls but were repurposed for education. And the two halls originally built by private money have been in full control of the university for nearly 10 years.

So why do you care as you seem to have no ties to the university? And why tell us as we have no input on the decisions and don't appreciate the way you bash our university?

SDSU has played a pretty decent schedule so far with quality wins over Gonzaga, St. Mary's, and Wichita State. Ours is not even close to that outside of Texas Tech (kinda) and Kansas where we got blown out. To answer the question, if we could make it to 20-2, then maybe. Problem is that even if we make that run with our only loss being to SHSU or LSU, it's still not very impressive compared with other top 25 schools. The SBC is just not a quality conference this year.

Always so positive...thanks for your input. So, what actual data tells you that the law school will be a disaster? I am just curious as I have not seen any data on that point. If so, that means everyone involved with trying to start the UNT Law School is an idiot and have their heads up their rear ends, right? They must have done absolutely ZERO pre-planning and pre-study and the approving boards all fell asleep and just rubber-stamped the thing, right? Really, I don't know, but this sort of thinking leads to the idea that UNT is "second rate" in its leadership and is looking to "fail". It is also the sort of comments that I refer to when I state that way too many people want to only see the negative and bad in everything UNT does. While no expert on law schools, I would think that a public law school in the north Texas area would have a better than average chance of being successful as there is no other public law school in the area. You might want to ask schools like Notre Dame, USC, Penn State, OSU, OU, Texas, etc., etc. what a winning football and athletic program does for their endowments. And, perhaps you might want to chat with President Rawlins about that as well. I am not that familiar with the engineering school at UNT, but I would guess that it takes a bit of time to sort things out and find where your strengths and weaknesses are before one settles into a solid program. Heck, programs even in the social sciences have seen funding cuts and staff turn over and those programs have been around a lot longer than engineering on the UNT campus. If you want the endowments to grow and grow in the areas you discuss, then start donating yourself and start building the program and UNT up to everyone you come in contact with...starting perhaps by looking into the closest mirror you can find...and stop being so quick to criticize and bitch about everything that is UNT. There are lots of things you cannot do anything about, but you CAN do something about your own attitude. It starts there..... GO MEAN GREEN!

I understand what you are saying emmitt, but I think the purpose of the person that posted that is to get this person to a game period, and the experience would win them over as full fledged fans.

I have half a mind to take my chances with GA in the Wing... I think it would be kind of fun to sit there... If it were reserved seating I would definitely do it...

This has been like turning a battle ship, no question. But I think what we're starting to see is the generational shift from student to future alumni. RV started it when he first got here and that freshman class started trading in longhorn and OU hats for Mean Green Hats. I think that's what has helped keep our attendance respectable in spite of our record. I can only imagine what the attendance would have been when I was a student and we were 6-37. The graduating class this year has seen school spirit on the rise and the juniors this year saw it for 3 years and the sophomores for 2, etc. etc. Think about the freshmen coming on campus next fall. This will probably be the most spirited group of freshmen to ever be on the campus because of the new stadium and the things the administration has done. Now imagine when they're seniors and they have bigger and more involved classes coming behind them. They'll all be alumni. They'll be alumni coming from a different foundation than what many of us came from. This culture has been torture to change but I think the shift is big and is going to pick up steam. When crowds of students and community involvement picks up, businesses start to notice and want to be a part of it....because now it means money in their pocket from advertising, etc. There's going to be a big green snowball start to tumble down hill. We're going to look around in 3-4 years and say, "So this is what big time college athletics looks like."

What exactly is awful about the drawings?

When I look at upcoming schedule earlier this month SHSU was noted as premium game. I haven't look at web interface in couple of days to see that it was not noted at premium game. Go Johnny and the Men!!! Here's to 9-1 and 10th place ranking in Mid Major poll...it's been a long time if ever that UNT was in the top 10 in any poll except golf. Here's to the golf team for that matter!!!!

And, why do folks on GMG.com need to be coming up with this sort of idea? You would think the AD's crack promo staff would already have something like this in the works. Oh, I forgot...but, let me say this also, I am not at all certain there is not a "Pack the Pit" night being developed within the athletic department. I am just a bit skeptical having seen the lack of any such real effort in recent years to stage events surrounding basketball (and football) games. Obviously, I like this idea. In fact, i would be willing to put in some "man hours" to help it be as successful as possible. Count me in as "labor" if something like this gets going. Just PM me with what I can do to help and I'll do all I can to help make it happen. It is possible to "Pack the Pit". And, it can be done....you can also PM drex as he has always had some great promo ideas centered around basketball games. In fact, rumor has it that he even discussed several with department personnel prior to the season. Don't know what came of that or what plans are developing, but drex made the effort. GO MEAN GREEN

+1 for you, sir. Thank you for having the vision and the capacity to think forward and positively about your university. This is, in fact, the thing, more than any other, that will force people to stand up and take notice of UNT. When the alumni, students, faculty and staff start believing and start spreading the word...the positive word...about UNT others will take notice. As long as UNT is its own worst enemy when it comes to public perception endowments, respect, etc. will continue to lag. The "good news" is that this old and tired perception of UNT is beginning to change. And, it will change for the better because of the attitude you display in your post. Too many tend to look for the "bad" in UNT first and if they cannot find any they think positive thoughts and say positive things. When one expects "bad" and "negative" one can definitely find "bad" and "negative". This "good" and "positive" and you will find "good" and "positive" and you will find the "good and positive" far outweigh the "negative" and "bad". Amazing now that happens in everything that goes on in one's life. I had a UNT staffer tell me the other day that he gets tired of people...UNT's own people and students...running the university down. he said, "you know, not every decision made on this campus is a bad one. We have some very bright and very intelligent people working hard to make this a premier institution, and it's way past time that others started taking notice and giving UNT some credit for all the good that is going on here these days." I tend to agree. Way too often UNT's own do more to further a "negative" perception of UNT than any outsider ever could. Things are changing in a good way at UNT. Time to be proud, talk positive and spread the good news. Thanks, Dr. Seuss, for getting it! And...yes, GO MEAN GREEN!