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He seemed to do a good job & did something very few people are willing to do , talk about the MeanGreen. Maybe people complaining about every article got to him. He wasn't perfect , but who is. He seemed very informative and he was doing it for free. I hope he comes back

We roll into Clemson with new QB Derek Thompson at the helm (hey, he's my adopted player this year). Dunbar in the backfield. A defensive line with two 300 pound tackles and two 250 plus defensive ends that have been putting pressure on Thompson, Tune, and Baine all fall camp. The linebacking corp has speed to burn and has been tough on Dunbar all camp. The special teams have learned to keep opposing players out of the backfield on punts and field goals and Olen has been money from inside 45 yards all fall. On offense, Dunbar is healthy, the questions about Stradford's hands have been positively answered, and Riley has taken to the slot receiver position like a beaver to a dam. Thompson won a fiercely contested battle at the QB position with Tune, during which both had to throw many passes on the run due to the newly found pass rush. Coach Chico has shown his college coaching chops all fall and has the offense chomping at the bit for this game. UNT wins the toss and drives immediately down the field. Clemson's suspect run defense is just that, as Dunbar and Thompson both have early success on the ground. The passing game is only used in this drive to keep Clemson honest against the run. UNT drives to the Clemson 20 before stalling. Olen comes in and puts a 37 yarder straight through the uprights. Equally as important, he feels no pressure during the kick. There is now 8:15 left in the 1st quarter. 3-0 UNT Clemson comes out thinking that they can do what everyone else did to UNT last year. Run the ball straight down our throats. Second and 8 leads to third and 7. Forced to pass, Clemson QB Kyle Parker is sacked by a blitzing outside LB, a new wrinkle in the UNT defensive game plan. Although he holds onto the ball, Parker is shaken up on the play. Clemson punts the ball to UNT with 6:05 left in the 1st. On the first play from their own 28, Thompson fakes the zone read and looks deep for Stradford, who hauls in a long gainer to the Clemson 30 yard line. A steady dose of Dunbar and Stratford runs sets up another shotgun playaction from the 5, with Carey catching the 1st Mean Green touchdown of the season with 2:40 left in the first. 10-0 UNT Death Valley sounds like, well, the real death valley as shock rolls through the stands and the Clemson sideline. After receiving the kickoff, Clemson, now fully awake, begins to drive the ball down the field on the arm of Park using mainly the short passing game. Clemson attempts to run the ball lead to few successes. The drive stalls at the UNT 15 and Clemson is forced to kick a field goal with 11:10 left in the second. 10-3 UNT UNT takes possesion on their own 30 after a nice kickoff return. After 2 first downs through the air, Dunbar breaks one, going 42 yards for the touchdown. The large amount of crickets that made the trip with UNT from Fouts can now clearly be heard in Death Valley. 8:00 left in the 2nd. 17-3 UNT. Clemson has a nice kickoff return of their own, which sets them up on their own 35. Park is sacked on 1st down by Brellazin, causing Park to fumble. Big Shavod recovers and it's UNT ball at the Clemson 30. A steady stream of Dunbar runs takes the ball to the Clemson 8 yard line before Thompson hits Riley for Riley's 1st receiving touchdown at UNT (I think) with 4:30 left in the 2nd. 24-3 UNT Clemson starts form their own 30 yard line. With the fans chanting WTF, Clemson moves quickly downfield, again through the short passing game. UNT, trying to get to the locker room, backs off the aggressive play on defense that had helped lead to this shocking lead. Clemson scores a touchdown on a 6 yard run with 30 seconds left in the half. Halftime score UNT 24 Clemson 10 Clemson gets the ball to start the 2nd half. UNT's defense is seemingly in the same non-aggresive mode from the end of the first half as Clemson uses a combination of short passes and power running to drive methodically down the field. The defense suddenly looks like the bend-don't-break defenses of the past that are oh so frustrating. Clemson scores a TD on a Park 8 yard pass with 8:00 left in the 3rd. The UNT defense has now been on the field for 12 1/2 straight minutes. 24-17 UNT A well rested UNT offense takes over at their own 22. Thompson continues to show maturity beyond his years and prove that the ASU game was no fluke. He is getting consistent pressure, but continues to hit receivers while on the run. It appears that Clemson is selling out to stop the run as Dunbar, who had 105 yards at the half, has a tough go of it in this series. UNT moves the ball to the Clemson 45 before being forced to punt. Atterberry pins Clemson at their own 5 with a beautiful kick. More importantly, Clemson came with a rush that was unsuccessful. 5:30 left in the 3rd. Clemson's offense plays it conservative so deep in their own territory, running on three staight plays and coiming up a yard short of the 1st down. They punt back to UNT with 3:55 left in the 3rd. UNT takes back over at their own 45. Chico adjusts immediately to the 8 in the box strategy that Clemson has begun to employ and Thompson hits Jackson for a big gainer down to the Clemson 20. UNT is really smelling blood now. A couple of Dunbar runs and UNT is at the 7 yard line. On 2nd and goal from the 5, Thompson sees Stradford open in the endzone, unfortunately, his pass is tipped at the line and intercepted by Clemson at the 3 and returned out to the 15 yard line as time runs out in the third. End of the third. UNT 24 Clemson 17. Clemson comes out firing and moves quickly down the field, again with short passing and power running. UNT's defense is starting to look a little worn out, although the pass rush has continued to harass Park. The UNT defense stiffens at their own 15. Clemson kicks a field goal with 9:00 left in the the 4th. 24-20 UNT UNT gets the ball at their 28. Thompson continues to throw the ball well under pressure as UNT moves down the field. Mathis has a couple of nice runs, although everyone in the Mean Green Nation wonders why Dunbar stands healthy on the sidelines. Their wonders cease when Dunbar re-enters the game and immediately rips off a 25 yard run that takes UNT down to the Clemson 25. A re-energized Dunbar picks up another first down on a couple of runs taking UNT to the 13 yard line, where the drive stalls. Enter Olen and another flawless field goal later UNT is up 27-20 with 5:50 left in the game. Panic has set in at Death Valley, which is now very loud as Clemson receives the kick. Starting from their own 33, Clemson again starts to march downfield against a tired UNT defense. The ability of Clemson to roll in 300lb talented offensive linemen is starting to take it's toll on the defense, which has spent most of the second half on the field. Clemson passes and runs thier way down to the Mean Green 10 with 2:10 left to play. Park throws an out route to the front corner of the endzone, which Royce Hill jumps. Hill makes the interception before stepping out of bounds in the front corner of the endzone. But wait.... the officials rule that Hill did not get a foot down in bounds and rule the pass incomplete. Replays show that Hill got both feet down a clear foot in bounds. On the next play, Clemson scores to make it 27-26. 1:50 left in the game. Clemson, feeling the momentum, decide to go for two. Such a stupid, no sense decision. especially at home. Unless you make it, of course, which Clemson does to go up 28-27. UNT receives the squib kick and gets it back out to the 30. Thompson, under heavy pressure, continues to hit his receivers. RIley has a nice run and catch down to the Clemson 45 with 1:10 left. A Dunbar draw catches Clemson off-guard and moves it down to the 36 with 55 secs left. Clemson calls a time out. UNT has an incomplete on 1st down, a Dunbar run for 5 yards (followed by CLemson's second timeout), and another incompletion leave UNT looking at 4th and 5 from the 31 with 39 secs left. Enter Zach Olin, who calmly nails a 49 yarder to give UNT a 30-28 lead. The only cheering that can be heard comes from the 150 UNT fans that made the trip. Clemson gets the ball at their 35 after a squib kick. 33 seconds left and one Clemson timeout. UNT plays the deep zone. A 15 yard gainer over the middle followed by a timeout leaves Clemson at midfield with 26 seconds left. Two incompletions run the clock down to 14 seconds. On 3rd down, Park goes to the sideline, where Smith lays a vicious, but clean, hit on the WR, breaking up the pass and forcing an apparent 4th down at midfield with 18 seconds left. But wait... A late flag comes in for unnecessary roughness for the hit on the receiver. It seems the Big 12-2 refs are doing their usual stand up job. The penalty takes the ball to the North Texas 35 with 18 seconds to play. The UNT defense looks completely demoralized. On first down, Park hits a 5 yard out on which the receiver steps out of bounds with 13 seconds to play. Clemson, out of time outs, decides to run one last play. Park again goes for the quick out. This time Hiil is sitting on it, jumps it, and makes the interception so far in bounds that a whistle can't blow it dead. Hill races 70 yards untouched into the endzone as time expires, giving UNT an unbelievable, highly improbable 37-28 victory over the Clemson Tigers. The UNT sideline goes wild as the UNT fans in the stands storm the field, having no idea of proper behavior after a big win. Since there were only 150 of them, authorities didn't even notice, allowing the fans to escape sure arrest. Thompson 22-33-1 260 yards 2 TDs Dunbar 29 - 160 1 TD This is what happens when a thundstorm blocks your satellite reception.

Maybe the adult beverage was the reason KRAM fell off his chair and misremembered the number?

Hopefully, we should still have Gaines, Akpunku, Obi, Boutwell, Bellazin and possibly Anyiam and McCoy returning next year. The only returning tackle will be Kyle White. Cantly has the size to stay at tackle.

Got an offer from Tulsa?

Dude...honestly...if our program is doing its job (tutoring, hand-holding, etc) we should be able to get a old stump to graduate. Vince Young was passing his classes at UT and he was borderline retarded based on his (alleged) Wonderlic score.

We were planning on going anyway, but this is welcome news!

Just got the word that we decided to change it to DOLLAR beer tonight, just more reason to come out to the stadium and enjoy some good college baseball

Steven B also told me during the Live Practice Chat.....that they hoped to have the rosters updated with the players' new weights...this week. He said that we will be pleasantly surprised with some of the new sizes. (I'm hoping Obi, Jeremy Phillips, AK47 and a few others have added weight).

KRAM.....your memory is off. The number Dan quoted was 465...not 200. Still way too low.....we need over a thousand.....but it's not 200. BTW...conferences take things like...support group (MGC in our case) and season ticket sales into consideration when considering new members. So we really need more MGC members and season ticket holders, if we want to be taken seriously as a FBS program.

Hope to see alot of UNT shirts tonight at the game, game time is once again at 7:05 and the stadium is located at 6151 Alma Drive, in McKinney

UNT-Dallas

The only time I ever write him, to suggest a story since he asked for suggestions, he never wrote back. I guess he just didn't like my idea. Nonetheless, I enjoyed his stuff - and hope he gets back to it.

These 2010 players may or may not have a home : Dean Jones Miles Wallace Brock Strange Leaks Bavol

Well, sir, you make a very good point, about as plainly as anyone could, so +1.

KRAM. sounds kinda like communism to me. I thought we were against that?

Green Gang http://www.meangreensports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&ATCLID=204974258

JJ listens to me

I wish I could give negative points to everyone that posted in this thread! I would rather have stuck a fork in my eye than relived this junk....but I couldn't turn away! Damn you all!!

Limited to the ones I've seen in person, they've all come in the past 5 years. Outside of that, the Tulsa home loss and the road loss to Akron were pretty miserable watch/listen experiences. The loss to Oklahoma wasn't as terrible, though it wasn't fun watching it at Pluckers near SMU and having to listen to everyone in the place mock us. I'm also glad that FilmerJ and I elected to go to Stillwater for the OSU-NT basketball game last year instead of watching Army at home, or that game would probably be on this list. We heard the meltdown on the radio during the drive back and got the immediate recap from 4 different people who sounded like they'd just been through a car wreck. My list: Kansas State - 2008 opener. Kept the faith through the Mendoza year, got excited about the DeLoach return, believed the cowstool about "Fight 'till the last whistle" and "crush your opponent's will to compete". Went to see the game in person with my brother and FilmerJ. Night before, we watch the new look June Jones Mustangs get throttled on national TV by Rice. Spirits are high. Day of the game, we go out and lay an even bigger egg than the one we saw in 2005 at the same stadium. A few days later, the coach admits he gave up trying after just a few series. I still get angry thinking about this one. Rice - 2008 road game. Stayed with my girlfriend's parents, and they still had no power in the aftermath of the hurricane. Half the d-line goes down with injuries, and when we can't keep pace with the Rice offense we just start running up the middle before halftime to kill the clock. First play of that last halftime drive, Vizza fights his way through a pile and picks up something like 20 yards. The coaches suddenly have to actually make an effort on the drive again, and I think Rice gives us up some yardage (pretty much the only yardage we gain) on penalties. But we don't score any points (then or at any point thereafter in the game), Rice continues to dominate and effectively starts kneeling on the ball in the 3rd quarter. So many fumbles, miscues, turnovers... Wind up diffusing a near fight after the game, then go home to an un-air conditioned house with no lights to wash the failure off in the dark. Louisiana Monroe - 2008 road game. Anyone who calls Giovanni Vizza a "quitter" wasn't at this game. His coach quit on HIM. We go down 28-0 in the first 17 minutes of the game. Vizza leads the team down inside the ULM 10... Field goal attempt. A visibly agitated Rick V leaves the sideline, shaking his head. Last possession of the half, down 35-3. We get the ball with 2:36 remaining and 2 timeouts. We waste a LOT of time getting plays called, but Vizza connects twice with Stickler for 44 yards and once with Cam Montgomery for another 20 to put us on the ULM 11 yard line. With 18 seconds left and us 11 yards from the end zone... Dodge sends in the kicking team AGAIN. RV is already long gone from the sidelines, and this call prompts several players' parents to leave the stadium. Only one came back to our section... If the rest watched the 2nd half, they did it from somewhere other than our section. First drive of the 2nd half, down 35-6, the offense drives down to the ULM 27. 4th and 6, down by FOUR SCORES... Dodge sends in the kicking team AGAIN. Again, disgusted parents get up and leave the stadium. Kick is good, so now the 4 score deficit becomes a slightly lower 4 score deficit. 3rd quarter, 6:39 left. Offense drives to the ULM 24 yard line. 4th and 4, 21 minutes left in the game, down by 26 points (FOUR TOUCHDOWNS)... Dodge sends in the kicking team AGAIN. No good. Still down 35-9. 36 seconds left in the 3rd quarter, down by 26. 3rd and 1 on our side of the field. Incomplete pass. 4th and 1 - Dodge sends out the punt team. A shocked Vizza runs off the field and screams "What do we have to lose?!??" Answer: The game. We score 2 TDs in the 4th quarter, but at that point all it does is make a more respectable 35-23 final score loss. Whenever I hear people start with the "we were only X points away from Y more wins!", I think of this game and the ULL home game from the same year when we were kicking field goals in their red zone in the 2nd half. Ineptitude and godawful decision making like what we saw in this game are why we've been "X points away", not bad luck. Ohio - 2009 home opener. Aside from what's already been mentioned and the terrible weather, my main memory of this game is doing overtime play-by-play on the phone for Quoner, who was out of town. From the agonizing dropped TD by Outlaw to the even more agonizing 4th and 15 TD conversion to the Bobcats changing their mind and deciding to go for two (if I recall correctly, they changed their mind after WE called timeout) it was like narrating the end of our season. When they connected on the 2 point conversion, I was so sick I couldn't even get the words out. He figured out we had lost by the crowd noise. Louisiana Lafayette - 2009 road game. Everyone remembers the meltdown against Ohio, but nobody seems to remember this one as the final nail in the coffin of a season that was still only 1-3 and very salvageable. We start the 4th quarter up by 10 points. We stop ULL on 4th down, only to give them 15 yards on a facemask penalty. They drive the rest of the way down the field and convert the TD on 4th and goal from the 1 yard line. We get the ball back on our own 42 with less than 9 and a half minutes remaining. Riley illegally completes a pass to himself for a loss of 18 yards (the loss was worse than the penalty on that play). Under heavy pressure (a declined running into the kicker penalty), we get off a 34 yard punt to Lafayette. Lafayette starts with good field position... But the defense holds. We start with the ball on our own 21 and 6:20 remaining. A few first downs, and ULL burns all their time outs. With less than 2:30 remaining, on the 48 yard line... ULL brings heavy pressure again and we kick a 10 yard punt. Literally a 10 yard kick; it went out of bounds and there was no return. Lafayette starts at midfield with zero timeouts and less than 150 seconds in the game. Again, the defense forces a 4th down and ULL throws an incomplete pass... But we get called for defensive holding. ULL converts a TD, and we're down 38-34. Royce Hill gets a nice return and we start near midfield with 30 seconds and 2 timeouts left... But we throw a pick on the first play of the drive and the game is over. Everyone remembers Ohio as a stunning blow that stopped the season in its tracks, but I think the ULL game was the knockout punch.

please man, "Criticize in private and praise in public." You guys are always so negative.

Refreshing...thank you. I thought those comments RV were truly telling, and I think he was asking the Mean green faithful to help. RV has moved the ball forward a great deal for UNT's athletic program, and it seems to me that the Mean Green Nation should honor his request and help. "Criticize in private and praise in public"...excellent! GO MEAN GREEN!

RV is gonna shut this forum down if you don't positive it up brah.

I don't want anyone on this team that cant make their JUCO grades. This is good news to me.

I bet you'd come around to loving Under Armour if we could get shoes like this made for our team. http://www.nicekicks...louisiana-tech/ In full disclaimer, that is my brother's website (nicekicks.com), he thanks you for visiting