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I'm going to start by saying that this isn't meant as a joke; I know tone is tough to interpret online and I generally aim for humor, but I'm not trying to make a cheap joke. And I'll point out that I really don't have much of a rooting interest in this concept. As most people who have met me already know, I don't even drink. But, suppose I have a taste for something that generally gets produced in a Latin American country. Bananas, for the sake of example. If I have to import the bananas I eat from Belize, but Belize doesn't have any traffic lights because of a governmental decision to not bother regulating vehicle intersections... There will probably be a lot of car accidents in Belize. Many of them will involve banana trucks. Many of them will cause the deaths of people uninvolved in the banana trade. Now, suppose that the government of Belize makes it a policy to arrest anyone who tries to manually direct traffic at any intersection that banana trucks drive through. Who really bears the ethical responsibility for the deaths of any people uninvolved in the banana trade? Me? Or the government of Belize?

Kram Always a lifesaver. I can participate this year for sure but I can't captain Stebo and I captained it last year. Only 1 of us captained White to a victory.

Kicks off March 23rd at 3:30PM http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/

Banana Smugglers. And we're all against that. sorry. I thought this thread would peter out, but it's shown amazing staying power. Must be a tantric thing.

Lucky Pierre.

If I'm not mistaken, this turned into a thread about legalizing ALL drugs. I am against legalizing marihuana because when you take the easy way out once, it becomes much easier to do it the next time, and the time after. Legalize marihuana, and other drugs will follow. Seriously?? The mexicans control over 90% of the methamphetamine trade in the US. About 8 years ago, tough federal restrictions went into place limiting the sale of the core elements sold domestically to produce methamphetmine. This, combined with the mexican cartel finally figuring out that they could make this stuff with some good chemist at dirt cheap prices, led to the change in the market. What had been a mainly domestically produced drug turned into a major mexican export into this county in the span of about a year and a half. Gotta love that adjustable market. This also led to "ice" (much more potent form of methamphetamine) being much more common on the american street. Just another example of why legalization wont work. The federal government would NEVER sanction the sale of "Ice", to whichis what most methamphetamine users have become accustomed.

No F'n S. 'Preciate ya.

Legalize marijuana... it's less harmful physically and socially than alcohol.

I think, as a society, you head down the road (or, in this case, much, much further down the road) of demise when you make a compromise as big as this. Not to bring another issue into this, but think about how much socialized medicine will have to deal with the addiction if you legalize these drugs. Then it does affect everyone in the county, because everyone will be covered for every side effect related to drug use by the simple fact that drug use is sanctioned by the federal government. That means non-drug users will be fitting the bill for those that choose to destroy thier body. I won't even get into the whole prescription drug issue and how legalization will affect that market. Do we tell young parents that it is OK to do methamphetamine in thier own home while raising a newborn? Will there be a federal observer there with young meth head mom to make sure she doesn't breast feed, thereby insuring that the infant does not become addicted to methamphetamine? Will there be a new law that any drug addicted new mother must take random drug tests? Who pays for these drug tests? Me and you. Will the federal government sanctioned strength of methamphetamine be to this young couple's taste? I promise you it wont. I promise you there will be an illegal market to satisfy this young couple's, and many others, methamphetamine needs, and I promise you that market will come from Mexico. Same with every other drug. If young parents are drug addicts, how do you get the small, infant child away from that parent if what that parent is doing is not illegal? No CPS involvement needed because the behavior is sanctioned by the federal government. Methamphetamine users have parental rights, too. The banana analogy is like comparing apples to... well, bananas. There are so many more far reaching consequences of legalization than there is of eating a banana. For brevity sake, I just touched on a few. It's the easy way out, folks.

Its pretty awesome that there is only a select few other teams on there. They must have been pretty selective and liked what they saw in Scrappy the Go Mean Green Eagle.

You misspelled John Calipari.

If Memphis were a "bigger" school with alumni in high places like many of the BCS schools would the NCAA do the same? For some reason I doubt it.

Maybe the people who use these illegal drugs should consider the market that they are creating. Maybe they should evaluate their behavior, the behavior that causes innocent citizens caught in the crossfire to be senslessly murdered, and change that behavior. Why shouldn't they? Marihuana isn't an addictive substance, to hear the pro-legalization faction spin it, so why, then, don't the people who use marihuana just simple quit? Why would they support such brutal practices? Because they care more about thier buzz than people dying in another country. Same for those who care more about thier coke, speed, x, or smack. This is something you never hear the pro-legalization people address. It's just so much easier to cave in and legalize drugs than it is to take a stand for what is right and tell drug users that there is a consequence for thier actions. Every single person on this board who uses illegal drugs needs to think about the death regimes that they are supporting before taking that next puff, snort or injection. But they won't. Human Nature.

Thread Spell Count: Holmen: 13 Holman: 9 Intelligence wins out in this thread despite a strong charge from stupidity.

Absolutely...but if you're anticipating that some feeling of guilt on the part of those who buy illegal drugs will in some way lead to a decline in illegal trafficking and thus a decline in this kind of violence, I'd say that is a rather naive opinion. I am really curious though to hear from those who were either on the fence or fully against the legalization of drugs such as marijuana or cocaine...is seeing violence such as this, perpetrated against Americans, enough to at least revisit the discussion...especially considering that pragmatic rationale that says that the bulk of the this violence is the result of the illegality of the activity of drug trade/trafficking in our country?

Very disturbing. If there were ever a good case for cross-border cooperation this seems to be it. However, several things are at play here. Not the least of which is that there is still a "culture" of "payoff" in Mexico that keeps many law enforcement, military and government officials simply "looking the other way" or actually abetting the narco gangs. Plus, with VERY strict gun laws, the average citizen has no real way of protecting themselves. This comes straight from my very good friend that has lived in Monterrey all his adult life and is very involved in local politics and business (the legal kind). He maintains a home in Laredo for his family as well as the family home in Monterrey. On the other hand, for the drug culture and narco gangs to exist there has to be a market for the illegal drugs in the first place. I wonder how many who use illegal substances in the US (and elsewhere) understand that they are part of the problem and that they are helping to allow this violence to continue and to grow? Every "joint" adds to the problem. And, many of the buyers of these drugs are fairly well educated folks. They simply turn their heads and think "it's not me"...."I am only smoking a little weed for personal use...I'm not harming anyone". Really???? Think about it. No, I am not blaming the U.S. or the "user" for this problem. Only indicating that part of the problem indeed lies north of the Rio Grande. If you buy or use drugs YOU ARE definitely part of the problem. Justify it anyway you would like if it makes you feel better about the role you play, but you ARE part of the problem. Now, if you want to legalize marijuana, go for it. I am sure you could find plenty of folks to support your efforts and plenty of U.S. firms who are anxious to get into the business of legally selling the stuff. Personally, I would have no real problem with the legalization of marijuana as it could then be TAXED and regulated. You want lower healthcare costs, legalize this stuff and tax the heck out of it. Comparing a legal drug such as alcohol to an illegal one is a lame argument at best. Simple fact is...one is legal...one is not. If you can't understand that difference, well, no wonder you are part of the problem. Prohibition was repealed, go get active and change the laws to legalize marijuana if you want. If it's that great, then surley you can muster enough support to get the laws changed, right? Mexico and the United States CAN solve this problem, but it will take some bold and perhaps controversial moves on the part of both countries working TOGETHER to solve the problem. Mexico is (I believe) our largest trading partner (at least for goods from Texas) and a very close neighbor who needs our help and support. However, the U.S. needs the help and support of Mexico as well. I don't mind gang members killing other gang memebrs either, but that is not the only consequense of this narco war. It is shutting down businesses, closing schools, destroying towns, and resulting in the deaths of innocent people as well as the narco thugs. The next time you or somone you know "lights up" give it some thought. The "buzz" you get may just be helping to destroy the lives of some innocent people in many different ways.

Sure, why not? Now that the rape of the U.S. Constitution is in full swing.... Rick

Wait... what about the 500 conferences we are supposed to be in by 2030??? How do we display those affiliations?

By the way, my bride laughs at me too every time I call Scrappy...Eppy. She just rolls her eyes and mutters something under her breath that is none too kind...

Over 17,000 deaths in Mexico since Prez Calderon took office. http://laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=353644&CategoryId=14091 Of course all this is spilling into the United States with Mexican and Central American drug gangs roaming our streets, please do not be naive. Look at the most notorious, MS-13 with chapters all over the United States. Personally, I could really care less if the drug gangs kill each other but what scares me more than anything else is the innocent toll it takes on unsuspecting families that are in the wrong place or who are mis-identified by the gangs. One only has to read past stories of Mexican officials and their families moving to the United States to keep from getting killed....and most recently the police chief of Juarez.

Even the meanest bully in school doesn't take milk money from the special-ed kids.

I got to talk with BCS Administrator Bill Hancock on Friday. He was a speaker at a conference I was attending in OKC. He went to the games on Thursday and complimented the North Texas band as the "best basketball band" he's ever heard! Bill has heard a basketball band or two in his day, he was a manager of the NCAA tournament before he went to work for the BCS. He's also pretty musical...so I give him some credit for knowing what he's talking about! I highly recommend his book, Riding with the Blue Moth. It's about him taking a cross-country cycling trip while dealing with the loss of his son, Will, who was killed in the 2001 plane crash that took the lives of several members of the Oklahoma State basketball family. Go Mean Green

Is it like comparing meth to marijuana? Seriously, why'd you switch up the drug in question? I think most folks are making this a pot issue only. Is there a Mexican meth market brewing because all of Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas and Alabama suddenly found new sources of fun? As KRAM said, we tax and control alcohol and cigs despite their destructive tendencies, and we get to tax and benefit from the money. Marijuana is a gray area to me; meth isn't.

I started typing something like this, then powered down halfway through. I have no interest in smoking pot and am a social drinker (outside of Hot Springs). But I agree with banana pants on this one.

Legalize it....

I agree fully. For some on the demand side, they may see what their high really costs, and it's more than the price on the dimebag. And for legalizing marijuana (and only that), yeah, I'm for that too. Legalize it, regulate it so it's safe, and tax it like tobacco and alcohol. Anything so that innocent bystanders don't have to pay the real price so someone can get high in their living room.

Anyone else care to contribute in a mature manner?

I assume there were no equally ignorant or criminally predisposed white recruits in this particular year's class?

They should have had one section in the 100's for students and allocate those to the most boisterous and enthusiastic students. And the other section for Donors, dedicated Alumni, and staff. I had seats about 5 rows up and near midcourt in N.O. I wonder who's decision it was to do it this way this year. To go through the school and show support. I understand that you have to reward those who are in a position to give more money. But what about those of us who give things other than money? Fans who work their ass off to ensure the new stadium gets built, fans who routinely make road trips sandwhiched in between work to support the school, fans who NEVER leave early, fans who have not missed a game in 5, 10, or 15 years, fans who were here wen the program was nearly killed off, etc. I know that money talks, but is this society so vain that we ONLY reward those with money and connections? Did YOU go? Just remember, no matter how bad they get, they have to go back to Kansas. Hell, Kansas City doesn't even want to be in Kansas. The founders took one look around, and said, "Nope, we're Missouri.

I find it difficult to believe a couple of multi purpose facilities with temporary, fold-away seating is a nicer place to watch College basketball than the Fabulous Super Pit? Of course I could be wrong? Because when you go to our athletic website to search for a great, quality photo of the Fabulous Super Pit that shows the entire interior of the facility from above the best your going to get is this near postage stamp size photo and you have to dig to find it. Yes, we have nice facilities, and there's more on the way. But in my opinion we don't promote them enough. Rick

Too bad UNT didn't go 0-33.. I would really be down for some 33 cent pizza

I think we should bring in all three of these guys and get rid of the dead weight in Josh White, George O, and Tristan Thompson.

they need more tunes. played fly like an eagle 10 times. it gets old.

The only times our attendance is ever under 2500 is during Christmas break...mostly...

Just great. I read this thread, look at my SI and what do I see? A player from the OTHER Kansas team resting his nuts on us! I kid. I kid.

Hey, check out the front cover of the latest issue of Sports Illustrated! In the right hand bottom corner is none other than the Mean green's one and only EPPY! SI has six different covers for this edition. Our area gets Kansas' Sherman Collins, but the BEST part is seeing Eppy. If for no other reason that to see the great Eppy, you should check out this issue! Way to go Mean green...great PR from getting to the big dance. Even with the loss yesterday, I think the Mean Green nation as a whole can be very very proud of this team, the effort they made and the great results. It looks great for another trip next season to the NCAA Tournament. Check out Eppy on the cover of SI!!!!!! GO MEAN GREEN!

Maybe he just said that because of how we sucked it up on the court. I wish he would have commented on our cheerleaders