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I cant believe the amount of people who rag on JJ and our b-ball program. I had to get out the media guide and show what a horrible b-ball program this has been. Here is the b-ball program the 30 years before we hired JJ. And even our 20 wins seasons in the 70's were full of games against what are now D-2, D-3, and NAIA schools. For those people that rag on our 1 or 2 wins a year against non D-1 schools, well in our hey day our schedule was full of non D-1 schools. So here are the records the 30 years before JJ. 71-72, 8-18 72-73, 9-16 73-74, 13-13 74-75, 6-20 75-76, 22-4 76-77, 21-6 77-78, 22-6 78-79, 11-16 79-80, 13-14 80-81, 15-12 81-82, 15-12 82-83, 15-15 83-84, 9-19 84-85, 5-23 85-86, 10-18 86-87, 11-17 87-88, 17-13 88-89, 14-15 89-90, 5-25 90-91, 17-13 91-92, 15-14 92-93, 5-21 93-94, 14-15 94-95, 14-13 95-96, 15-13 96-97, 10-16 97-98, 5-21 98-99, 4-22 99-00, 7-20 00-01, 4-24 So in the 30 years before JJ we had 3 seasons of 18 wins or more. In the last 4 years we have won 23, 20, 20, and this year at least 18. I still cant believe that people can get on here and complain about JJ and the program.

OK, I admit it...at first blush, I was very pleased to see another Democrat decide to step down from the Senate and open up the possibility of a "change of aisles" for this seat in the 2010 mid-terms. You do know that 5 Democrat senators have decided to not seek re-election so far, right? BUT, did you know that 6 Republican Senators have done the same so far? And, this does not say anything about the House. But, back to the point...after giving this some thought and believing the reasons given for the resignation, it is a fairly "sad event" when a long-standing and reported "centrist" no longer thinks it is worth his/her time to continue to serve because of all the grid-lock in DC these days. That says a lot to me, and not too much good. Maybe this is one way to get "term limits"...just tire them out...but, it may well signal that it is past time that folks started to think of what is best for the nation and not their own petty or ideological biases in each and every case. I am in no way implying that conservatives should immediately embrace universal health care or big deficits or "bridges to nowhere", nor am I saying that liberals should abandon pressing for universal health care, certain tax increases, etc,., etc. But, what I am saying is that it might just be time to get back to LBJ/Reagan style "negotiations" and compromise. Perhaps the Republicans just do have some good points regarding health care and climate change and tax incentives vs. tax increases and perhaps the Democrats do have a point in trying to expand health care to more citizens, etc. Surely, there is a way to figure this out...this and a lot of other issues and keep the whole thing from being a "my side is never going to agree with your side" thing when it comes to every issue facing this great nation. There certainly is middle ground in many many issues...not all, for certain, but for many. And, if we can handle the "many" the few others will not be sure lightening rods for partisanship. No one likes to have things rammed down their throats...neither side will react well to that. Maybe Sen. Bayh has done the nation a favor after all in making it clear why he is resigning...we'll see, won't we. By the way...there is a person in our office that thinks the real reason Bayh is resigning is that he will file to run against President Obama in the 2012 presidential race. Hmmmmmm...could that be? I think it is a bit of a stretch, but stranger things have happened in DC these days.

Posted on CUSA board (No link included) Grand Total Revenues for all Teams (includes by team and not allocated by gender/sport) Reporting Year: 7/1/2008 - 6/30/2009 01.) Texas $138,459,149 02.) Ohio State $119,859,607 03.) Florida $108,309,060 04.) Alabama $103,934,873 05.) Louisiana State $100,077,884 06.) Penn State $95,978,243 07.) Michigan $95,193,030 08.) Tennessee $92,524,125 09.) Wisconsin $89,842,749 10.) Auburn $87,001,416 11.) Georgia $81,496,357 12.) Oklahoma $81,487,835 13.) Notre Dame $81,088,368 14.) Southern California $80,151,282 15.) Iowa $79,521,143 16.) South Carolina $76,254,236 17.) Michigan State $75,624,811 18.) Nebraska $74,881,383 19.) Stanford $74,695,254 20.) Florida State $74,417,324 21.) California $73,354,967 22.) Texas A&M $72,886,100 23.) Kentucky $72,057,751 24.) Oklahoma State $71,805,825 25.) Duke $71,072,431 26.) Kansas $70,614,953 27.) Minnesota $70,322,992 28.) North Carolina $70,152,767 29.) Virginia $67,141,170 30.) UCLA $66,177,866 31.) Boston College $64,157,876 32.) Arkansas $63,978,641 33.) Miami $61,969,808 34.) Indiana $60,615,528 35.) Washington $60,575,780 36.) Oregon $60,283,512 37.) Clemson $60,167,535 38.) Maryland $59,966,862 39.) Purdue $59,919,102 40.) Connecticut $58,495,408 41.) Louisville $58,023,326 42.) Missouri $57,778,668 43.) West Virginia $55,658,165 44.) Illinois $55,609,086 45.) Rutgers $54,304,756 46.) Arizona State $53,297,963 47.) Virginia Tech $52,838,905 48.) Syracuse $52,050,104 49.) Arizona $51,822,629 50.) Oregon State $50,211,404 51.) Colorado $49,859,693 52.) Northwestern $48,582,384 53.) Baylor $48,545,254 54.) Georgia Tech $48,061,053 55.) Kansas State $47,399,903 56.) Texas Tech $46,632,263 57.) North Carolina State $46,491,105 58.) Texas Christian $46,461,545 59.) Pittsburgh $45,830,364 60.) Iowa State $45,813,189 61.) Vanderbilt $45,582,274 62.) Wake Forest $44,649,063 63.) Mississippi $41,318,068 64.) Washington State $38,293,754 65.) South Florida $37,855,971 66.) Mississippi State $36,536,152 67.) Brigham Young $35,628,193 68.) Southern Methodist $35,386,090 69.) Cincinnati $35,027,102 70.) San Diego State $34,451,248 71.) Memphis $33,506,683 72.) Nevada-Las Vegas $33,178,196 73.) New Mexico $31,990,662 74.) Utah $31,776,878 75.) Rice $30,671,822 76.) East Carolina $30,569,723 77.) Hawaii $30,515,408 78.) Central Florida $29,987,609 79.) Houston $29,620,164 80.) Fresno State $28,806,348 81.) Tulsa $27,130,674 82.) Temple $26,879,311 83.) New Mexico State $25,616,185 84.) Miami (OH) $24,685,668 85.) Wyoming $24,671,158 86.) Buffalo $23,446,561 87.) Texas-El Paso $22,990,846 88.) Alabama-Birmingham $22,620,615 89.) Central Michigan $22,476,972 90.) Colorado State $22,333,071 91.) Eastern Michigan $21,951,867 92.) Ohio $21,893,603 93.) Western Michigan $21,674,165 94.) Army $21,620,575 95.) Nevada $21,444,154 96.) Florida International $21,270,045 97.) Western Kentucky $21,002,792 98.) Tulane $20,811,000 99.) Boise State $20,583,008 100.) Marshall $20,040,935 101.) Northern Illinois $19,903,785 102.) Akron $19,769,908 103.) Ball State $19,385,563 104.) Toledo $19,165,629 105.) Southern Mississippi $18,623,258 106.) Kent State $17,942,193 107.) San Jose State $17,886,445 108.) Middle Tennessee State $17,204,861 109.) North Texas $16,621,986 110.) Utah State $16,498,260 111.) Bowling Green $16,320,67 112.) Idaho $15,055,971 113.) Florida Atlantic $14,863,017 114.) Troy State $14,389,423 115.) Louisiana Tech $13,901,349 116.) Louisiana-Lafayette $12,122,861 117.) Arkansas State $10,745,253 118.) Louisiana-Monroe $7,907,960 Not Listed Air Force Navy Atlantic Coast 20.) Florida State $74,417,324 25.) Duke $71,072,431 28.) North Carolina $70,152,767 29.) Virginia $67,141,170 31.) Boston College $64,157,876 33.) Miami $61,969,808 37.) Clemson $60,167,535 38.) Maryland $59,966,862 47.) Virginia Tech $52,838,905 54.) Georgia Tech $48,061,053 57.) North Carolina State $46,491,105 62.) Wake Forest $44,649,063 Big East 40.) Connecticut $58,495,408 41.) Louisville $58,023,326 43.) West Virginia $55,658,165 45.) Rutgers $54,304,756 48.) Syracuse $52,050,104 59.) Pittsburgh $45,830,364 65.) South Florida $37,855,971 69.) Cincinnati $35,027,102 Big Ten 02.) Ohio State $119,859,607 06.) Penn State $95,978,243 07.) Michigan $95,193,030 09.) Wisconsin $89,842,749 15.) Iowa $79,521,143 17.) Michigan State $75,624,811 27.) Minnesota $70,322,992 34.) Indiana $60,615,528 39.) Purdue $59,919,102 44.) Illinois $55,609,086 52.) Northwestern $48,582,384 Big 12 01.) Texas $138,459,149 12.) Oklahoma $81,487,835 18.) Nebraska $74,881,383 22.) Texas A&M $72,886,100 24.) Oklahoma State $71,805,825 26.) Kansas $70,614,953 42.) Missouri $57,778,668 51.) Colorado $49,859,693 53.) Baylor $48,545,254 55.) Kansas State $47,399,903 56.) Texas Tech $46,632,263 60.) Iowa State $45,813,189 Conference USA 68.) Southern Methodist $35,386,090 71.) Memphis $33,506,683 75.) Rice $30,671,822 76.) East Carolina $30,569,723 78.) Central Florida $29,987,609 79.) Houston $29,620,164 81.) Tulsa $27,130,674 87.) Texas-El Paso $22,990,846 88.) Alabama-Birmingham $22,620,615 98.) Tulane $20,811,000 100.) Marshall $20,040,935 105.) Southern Mississippi $18,623,258 Independents 13.) Notre Dame $81,088,368 94.) Army $21,620,575 00.) Navy N/A Mid-American 82.) Temple $26,879,311 84.) Miami (OH) $24,685,668 86.) Buffalo $23,446,561 89.) Central Michigan $22,476,972 91.) Eastern Michigan $21,951,867 92.) Ohio $21,893,603 93.) Western Michigan $21,674,165 101.) Northern Illinois $19,903,785 102.) Akron $19,769,908 103.) Ball State $19,385,563 104.) Toledo $19,165,629 106.) Kent State $17,942,193 111.) Bowling Green $16,320,676 Mountain West 58.) Texas Christian $46,461,545 67.) Brigham Young $35,628,193 70.) San Diego State $34,451,248 72.) Nevada-Las Vegas $33,178,196 73.) New Mexico $31,990,662 74.) Utah $31,776,878 85.) Wyoming $24,671,158 90.) Colorado State $22,333,071 00.) Air Force N/A Pacific-10 14.) Southern California $80,151,282 19.) Stanford $74,695,254 21.) California $73,354,967 30.) UCLA $66,177,866 35.) Washington $60,575,780 36.) Oregon $60,283,512 46.) Arizona State $53,297,963 49.) Arizona $51,822,629 50.) Oregon State $50,211,404 64.) Washington State $38,293,754 Southeastern 03.) Florida $108,309,060 04.) Alabama $103,934,873 05.) Louisiana State $100,077,884 08.) Tennessee $92,524,125 10.) Auburn $87,001,416 11.) Georgia $81,496,357 16.) South Carolina $76,254,236 23.) Kentucky $72,057,751 32.) Arkansas $63,978,641 61.) Vanderbilt $45,582,274 63.) Mississippi $41,318,068 66.) Mississippi State $36,536,152 Sun Belt 96.) Florida International $21,270,045 97.) Western Kentucky $21,002,792 108.) Middle Tennessee State $17,204,861 109.) North Texas $16,621,986 113.) Florida Atlantic $14,863,017 114.) Troy State $14,389,423 116.) Louisiana-Lafayette $12,122,861 117.) Arkansas State $10,745,253 118.) Louisiana-Monroe $7,907,960 Western Athletic 77.) Hawaii $30,515,408 80.) Fresno State $28,806,348 83.) New Mexico State $25,616,185 95.) Nevada $21,444,154 99.) Boise State $20,583,008 107.) San Jose State $17,886,445 110.) Utah State $16,498,260 112.) Idaho $15,055,971 115.) Louisiana Tech $13,901,349

There can be no question that JJ is the best coach we have ever had. The question is what do we want, and what can we reasonably hope for? The subject of a post by Tasty a while ago. We are about 137 in the RPI, depending on which one your read. Sagarin has us at 163, Pomeroy at 179. If we win the conf tournament we will be a 15 or 16 seed. Until this season, we have done better than 10-6 in the conf, and that only once at 11-7. Coming into this season, JJ was below .500 in conf games in his career though in fairness he inherited a train wreck; he was 43-37 in the most recent five years and of course is improving on that. So the question that Mo is raising is, is that what we want from this program? Believe me things will be getting tougher if the conference can keep such coaches as Jarvis, Brady, Arrow, Davis, McDonald, etc. These guys have scalps on their wall and are excellent at both recruiting and game coaching. This season is probably JJs best coaching job, considering the injuries which robbed us of our point guard and inside depth, and the trend of conference results is positive. He is making progress. So to me stating that JJ is the best coach we have ever had begs the issue; the issue is are we getting out of our program what we want and are we getting what we think we should?

You can pretty much take that list and call it the 2010 FBS Pre-season Coaches poll. Funny how that works, huh.

Regarding your point about why couldn't we have started the season better. I suppose we coulda started like USA did, knock off a Top 25 school, and then gone in the tank. Or even WKU(tho they seem to have righted the ship) starting off like a house of fire before hitting a death spiral for around 3 weeks. I'm not saying you don't make a good argument, but this crap happens. I've never claimed JJ was our greatest coach - but if you're going to use postseason success as a measurement - then we have no one enter that conversation since we have none. There seem to be three who get votes tho. One in the MVC, one in the late 70's/early 80's, and now. So can we say JJ is perhaps our greatest coach? I think so.

You can't argue the information presented, so instead of going after the person who made the statements or the statements themselves, you attack the service who choose to run the story? C'mon, if you have a point to make, please make it, and try and do so without trying to discredit the story because of where it ran. ...this is just another in a long line of stories that throw all of the "evidence" that you base the rest of your post on into question, and many of those stories didn't have to be dug for. ...which hasn't happened yet. A large part of the scientific community are questioning the evidence. ...including some who once were ball carrying members of the "Global Warming" Team. Since the debate isn't over and the facts aren't all in, and as more research is done on what "facts" we do have we find more and more holes, perhaps it is time to slow down and engage in some REAL science, and do so without a pre-conceived notion of what the results should be. ...more and more flaws being found daily. For example, a big story yesterday is how unreliable the temperature readings at weather stations are. Issues with calibration, no mention of the fact that many weather stations that used to be in rural areas are now surrounded by development. Weather stations that were built on the outskirts of airports that now have hot jet exhaust blown on them as the airport has expanded, weather stations that aren't in the same place they were when they started being recorded, etc. First of all, I'd like to see you back this up, because this simply isn't true. Second of all, any scientist who, despite the evidence that is coming out almost daily about the flaws in the data upon which many conclusions have been drawn on keep coming out, doesn't take a moment of pause to investigate the new information - isn't really a scientist at all, so a group that they belong do doesn't really draw much water with me. Science, like justice, should always be blind, and should not be conducted with the thought "this is what answer we WANT to see" because somehow, that's the answer that will show up. These SAME Scientific Society's and Scientists were telling us 25-30 years ago the planet was cooling at an exponential rate, and that we'd be sitting on an ice cube by the mid 90's. ...they are the same people that called it global warming for the past 15 years that we needed to worry about Global Warming. ...now they've changed it to "Climate Change" because in truth they don't know what the hell is going on, so they needed to change the language to keep them from looking like a bunch of folks with Agendas instead of Scientists the next time they changed their mind. ...and to believe that MAN though the production of CARBON can change the climate on this planet is just full-on absurdity. Human activity is results in CO2 emissions, which is the big bad pollutant these folks are harping on and that we may, through technology have some way to combat. CO2 makes up 4 parts in 10,000 of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. Some of this occurs naturally, and was in place LOOOOOOOOOONG before we started building factories and cars. I've used this example before, but here it is again - Lets say the atmosphere is Fouts Field. let's say that the 10,000 parts are attendees at a football game that we're losing. Let's say 2 of those people get up and walk out. Would you notice? ...well, that's the same impact that decreasing CO2 in the atmosphere by half would have on the atmosphere. ...and the idea that we have the POWER to cut CO2 in half (I don't mean CO2 emissions, I mean the actual CO2 in the atmosphere) is insanity itself.

To get more votes, you just need to pander to the right people. I present you exhibit A: A hot chick in a storm trooper outfit.

NT 107 HBU 87 Final Nice tuneup for the homestretch. Now gonna root for ULM tonight

Shuke-D = Mike Seaver

I think this thread has kind of derailed from the original post's content to "is JJ the best BB coach of all time at North Texas?". I just look at the recent vs. past records as an indicator that things are progressing pretty well under JJ's leadership. I think all NT fans should be happy about that. Everyone should be able to agree that things are exponentially better with Men's hoop since Coach Jones arrived.

Rick, Just curious. Are you dissapointed in the basketball team this season? I really feel like we've achevied at a level higher than I initially expected given our injury situation. I don't feel that praising the past four successful years in any way diminishes the accomplishment of past NT teams. We've had some great wins in previous years in multiple eras (the JJ era included).

I agree. Our lack of perimeter defense would be a real problem against a jump shooting team like Duke.

GreenFlag I recommend you run do not walk away from this conversation. The Heritage Foundation, Fox News and Drudge has them now. They have been assimilated into the machine. Reasoning with them only leads to tired head. Happy Presidents Day Everyone!

I was able to open it. Here's a quick rundown: BOR -> Chancellor -> President Only one more level above Jackson, apparently.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

...look, I'm agnostic, so I have no real dog in the Religion hunt, but I must say, the article sort of blows its own credibility out of the water when its headline is "Texas Education Board Is Trying to Infuse Schoolbooks with Ultraconservative Ideology"... ...and one of the quotes they use to back up this assertion is "...But we are a Christian nation founded on Christian principles..." How is that statement NOT true. ...or how is it ultraconservative? ...and what does ANY of this have to do with International Diplomacy? Stealth Thread Hijack, perhaps?

Calvin conveniently leaves out that during these years, as an independent early on, we also had wins over: TCU(5 times) Texas(twice) SMU(3 times) Baylor(3 times) Texas Tech Arizona State(finished 25-4 and an NCAA bid) Kansas State Rice U Mass Louisiana Tech I'm sure there were other wins over known opponents I'm leaving out that I just don't know of. Rick

Mystikal??

ASU wins 69-52. Guess we'll have to keep hoping.

So, I guess that mean MSNBC, CNN, and Air America have you? See how that works both ways? Maybe you run from the debate because you don't respect those with differing opinions from your own. There has been plenty of contradictory research posted on here that dispute your view, but you fall back on the trusty old "right wing conservative conspiracy theory"? I see most conservatives on here respond to being challenged with information, while I see most liberals respond with name calling. Maybe it's the whole thought vs. feeling aspects of the 2 opposite ends of the spectrum.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342002-the-fate-of-todd-dodge-and-staff-rest-in-the-hands-of-mike-canales Some tidbits...

Good find very interesting. But also disappointing. Four teams who took in less revenue than UNT went to College Football Bowls. Granted the article is outdated, I would like to see what last years totals calculate. ( If you throw in other sports than my reasoning is unfounded.)

Greetings from Houston. They have wi-fi here, otherwise it's like being at a Jr HS game (never mind HS)!

Generally I tend to agree with the things that you post however I have to agree with "90" here. The whole Bush did nothing wrong argument, presented here, is just petty and not accurate. It just isn't that simple. There is plenty of blame to be tossed on members of both parties here and trying to limit it to just one, regardless of which one I think is irresponsible and bordering on petty. Quick question, how many years did it take before Pres. Bush vetoed a spending bill? Where did the money for the Perscription drug bil that he and Teddy Kennedy pushed come from? There were ample opportunities for Bush to do things that would limit the deficits (sp) that accrued under his watch and he just didn't. As we go forward in this country we will all blame people for the ills of our economic situation and partisan politics will continue to divide this country. I am ok with that personally, what is UT without OU, what is Ali without Frazier and what is the Democrats without the Republicans? But Bush?!?! That guy never met a spending bill that he didn't love.

Here is a good start to see the craziness in the Texas school board; mostly by conservatives: http://www.alternet.org/rights/145658/texas_education_board_is_trying_to_infuse_schoolbooks_with_ultraconservative_ideology

Don't question KRAM's unwavering commitment. I'm thinking of slapping a UNT jersey on my cat and seeing if he'll cheer for it next time he goes to the vet.

Found the web site. Here's the full data for UNT. Click Revenue & Expenses. http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetails.aspx?756e697469643d32323732313626796561723d32303038267264743d322f31352f3230313020333a34363a303720504d

I was actually thinking that since several posters here have a, er, are really excited about Baine's potential as a dual threat QB that they could change their screen names to reflect that.

Just a technicality, but is a converted attic above their detached garage really part of their house if I'm paying for my own DSL line instead of stealing the password for their secured wifi network? Ah, independence.

Any chance we could compromise and have Dunham sing Thunderstruck with some "seriously hot chicks"? Isn't the new stadium supposed to double as a concert venue? Looks like we have our first performer!

Nice find, you really dug deep on this one. You went far beyond reputable scientific journals and linked an article from a British daily tabloid. The whole idea of Global Warming was met with a great deal of scepticism as are ALL new ideas and theories in the scientific community. Only after a great deal of debate and research do these ideas and theories become accepted. There are flaws of course, mistakes will have been made and continue to be made, and research will be invalidated which is great. That is how the process works. At the end of the day, every national science academy that has issued a statement on the subject agree on 1) The climate has warmed in recent decades at a pace far greater than previous known global warmings and 2)That human activities have influenced this. No known scientific society rejects these findings. Again, nice find.

Well someone obviously wasnt at the game on Saturday. Well two more home games, try to make it to at least one. We have a good squad once again this year. And yes im all about positive points

Oh sweetheart...don't worry, I know that success in life is really measured by the amount of money I have in the bank and the number and cost of all the shiny things in and around my house...I was just pointing out the inevitable humor of the backlash from the reasonible fans of this basketball program when someone fires off so douche-ily right after a damned big night that has this perpetually under-acheiving basketball team and their mediocre coach still very much in the hunt for a conference title. And now the rule is to simply reply to the threads with which we agree...biting our collective tongues in all other cases? Should make for a great discussion board.

Very nice win, and Josh really took it over down the stretch. If he continues to look like he is getting back to his 90+% FT shooting, maybe we need to start sending him to the hole earlier in the game and getting him to the line even more often. He looked real comfortable out there. The only disappointing thing to me last night was the student turnout. I know it's a big weekend for other events, but not many showed up for a big Saturday night game. At least the ones who did show were very enthusiastic. Hope the crowd picks up from here.

You actually take the points system seriously don't you, as if someone's success in life balances on where their points are on a fan message board? I know it's difficult with the snow up there and all, but really, you need to get out more. I assure you, Mo Green doesn't give a rats @$$ if people agree with him or not. He's paid his dues over the course of 35 years and he's going to give you his oppinion. Save yourself some trouble and move on if you don't agree with him. Rick

me...becuase mine isnt some source...i see it with my own eyes every day!

What about his comment that all gun owning whites secretly want to shoot blacks?

I just want to say that I feel that this UNT Dallas business is a terrible thing for UNT Denton. Guess where the system offices of the other D1A schools in Texas are. Texas in Austin, Texas A&M in College Station, Texas Tech in Lubbock, and UH is in Houston. We have ours in Dallas just like FCS Texas State has their system offices in Austin. For you conspiracy theorists, Jackson has his Masters of Public Admin from SMUt. I guess he wanted to move the University closer to his cronys. Does he really give a rat's (you know what) about OUR university? I seriously doubt it. He is collecting his fat cat paycheck livin it up with his Dallas SMUt pals. If we end up like ULL and ULM(I know they didn't start out with those names) and seriously start having to use the name UNT Denton or University of North Texas at Denton or just strictly Denton, I will disown this University and whatever sorryassed system it is a part of at that time.

I saw one thing in the organization chart that struck me as peculiar. The vice-president of finance at UNT does not report to the president of UNT but instead reports to the chancellor. The apparent reason is that he is vice-chancellor of finance for the UNT System. He's located in Dallas, not Denton. Another controversy that I seem to recall was that Lee Jackson wanted to move the information systems personnel to Dallas to avoid hiring another staff at the System level. Addressing the first point that the tuition increase was too high; her request was based on information available and was just that a request. Apparently it is up to the chancellor to recommend the amount of increase to the BOR. How can that be a firable offense even if she made a strong appeal to keep the increase as it was recommended. I don't know how the increase would compare with the tuitions at UT, A&M, Tech and Houston but we had previously been lower than any of those. Furthermore, it hasn't affected our enrollment. As I recall, the reason Dr. Bataille gave for wanting to keep the IS in Denton was that it was tied to research. I agree that it shouldn't be moved because the majority of the work is in Denton. As chancellor he can get whatever information that he requests without duplicating staff or having them next door or under his thumb. Lee Jackson may be a smart man but he is also a control freak and needs to be removed. Chancellors do not need to micromanage.

I think it's a good move & JJ has earned it, IMO. Worlds better than the boneheaded 5 year deal they gave to Teflon Todd.

No kidding. But money talks & apparently the Big10's TV contract is huge.

Classic, is this the article you first referenced? Cheney's Revenge in the WSJ. My linkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704022804575042112185849380.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion

http://www.outfoxed.org/ Great documentary!!!! Fair and Balanced look at Fox News!!!!! This network is really pathetic and history will see this network as what it is....It is akin to Hitlers Propaganda Films Any merit to this station is ridiculous and the more you look into what they are doing the more your common sense should come to the surface. They are an organization with an agenda. I encourage all Liberals to take up their 2nd amendment right!!! We need to be ready if these guys ever take hold.

Yes, he has. From his bio - Prior to his stint in the NFL, Kragthorpe spent four years (1997-00) as an assistant coach at Texas A&M, including the final three seasons as offensive coordinator. He also coached the wide receivers from 1997-99, before becoming the quarterback coach for the 2000 season. The rumor is that Kragthorpe is interviewing for the WR coach, so he'd be taking a trip in the time machine back to 1997.

Ugh... Ok. Do some research. The Education outcome in China and India FAR out paces that of the education outcome in the United States. Statistics don't lie. People don't just come to America for education. The economics in both China and India are not as good as they are here, even when we're in the tank like we are now. ...and specifically in China, you can't live how you want to, raise the type of family you want, and the like. The political and economic situations in both countries can't be ignored to make an argument. You can't conclude that because people from those countries want to come here that means their education system is worse than ours - that logic doesn't even work. You need so badly to blame Republicans, you don't even get the point. First, the issue with Social Security isn't a result of high unemployment now. It is a problem because Presidents and Congresses of both parties since Social Security was created have pissed away the money being paid into the system to fund social programs and other government spending. ...and they have been doing this while KNOWING that in this Decade, the number of people paying into the system would be strained as the baby boomers started to need to use the system as they retired. You're so hard up to blame President Bush for everything that is wrong today, but two facts remain. In Late 2006 when you say the economy started to falter, DEMOCRATS gained control of Congress, the body of the government who actually HAS some impact on the economy, as they hold the purse strings and control the agencies that regulate business. ...and during President Bush's first term, he TRIED to do something about Social Security because this was coming, yet he was thwarted by members of congress in both parties. You may not have agreed with his method, but nobody bothers to give him credit for seeing the writing on the wall and trying to do something about it. Yes, fewer people working put less dollars in the system. I agree with that. So maybe this flip accelerated because of the bad economy, but even if we didn't have this recession, this same thing would have happened in 2013 or 2014, as it is inevitable - more people retiring, fewer children entering the workforce behind them, and the trust fund of money that had been paid in over the years is empty. Who do I blame? Government. Members of both parties. The politicians over the years who have allowed the Social Security Trust Fund to be spent like it's a rainy day fund for everything, and continuing to run deficits beyond even that raid. But in light of this fact, the response of the current government is to pour on more debt and spend even more money that we don't have, and to tax the living crap out of the folks that might invest and create new jobs? ...Again, I'm really tired of arguing the past. Blame Bush if it makes you feel better. ...but what the former President did doesn't make the economically illiterate moves of this President and his Congress right. ...as I was typing this, I got a message from a news feed in my e-mail that "House passes increase on debt limit by $1.9 trillion on a 217-212 vote". Your attack on yet another Republican ignores the fact that Reagan wasn't the only Governor of that State in the 70's and that there has been nothing but Democrat Governors and Democratically Controlled Legislators in that state since he was in power. You are so BLIND with hatred for a party, you can't see past the letter behind the name of the people in power to actually analyze the polices being made. Again, you show how little you know about California politics to place their current situation on a Governor who was in office 35 years ago. The issues in the state ARE long term, but they come from uncontrolled immigration, run away social spending and a court system that systematically thwarts the will of the voters in the state. ...the issues stem from the same issues we face as a nation, only they are further along in the process and they don't have a direct negative impact on everyone in the country. You're willing to place the blame for California on the shoulders of a man who has been out of power in that state for 30 years, yet you refuse to admit that the things the current president is doing could have negative ripple effects for Generations. You're willing to blame all of the ills of the world on George Bush, yet you fail (or refuse) to see how the current President and the current Congress are sending us RIGHT DOWN the same path California has taken to get them to the bad state they are in today. Perry cut the property tax rates that School Districts can impose via a Property Tax, so your statement isn't accurate. In many cities the local unit part of the property tax rate has dropped considerably during the past 3 years. For example, in McKinney, where I live, Total Local Unit (County, City and School District Combined) tax rates went from 2.93% in 2006 to 2.76% in 2007 to 2.43% in 2008 with a slight bump up in 2009 to 2.45%. So the governor's move in 2006 to drop the rate School Districts could tax (and to cap the increases they can make without legilative approval) have not caused property tax rates to go up. ...and McKinney isn't an isolated case. Medina's system hasn't been fully vetted, but if everyone, and not just the property owners, have to pay for education in this state, the burden of education and other funding will be borne by a larger group, and won't be such a hidden tax. (Most people pay their property taxes with their mortgage and don't pay much attention to it, just like they don't really pay attention to how much of their paycheck the Federal Governemnt confiscates each pay day). ANY system where the people have to see every time they are paying a tax is bound to create a more aware and in tune citizen. Any system where EVERYONE who is benefiting from the benefit of a tax also has to bear a portion of its cost is a good thing.

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PLEASE don't get me started on education. Taxpayers have invested considerable resources in the nation's public schools. However, ever-increasing funding of education has not led to sim ilarly improved student performance. Instead of simply increasing funding for public education, federal and state policymakers should implement education reforms designed to improve resource allocation and boost student performance. Given the significant increase in resources allocated to public education, politicians should consider whether government spending increases have led to improved student outcomes. This will help to determine whether future increases in education spending can be expected to yield tangible improvements for students, or if maintaining high property taxes on the property owners in the state for sake of "education" is really something we should be putting much weight on. A basic comparison of long-term spending trends with long-term measures of student academic achievement challenges the belief that spending is correlated with achievement. Compare real per-pupil expenditures with American students test scores on the long-term National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) reading examination from 1970 to 2004. While spending per pupil has more than doubled, reading scores have remained relatively flat. You'll find the attached chart interesting. High school graduation rates provide another historical barometer of American educational performance. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, the average freshman graduation rate for American public schools has remained relatively flat over time. In 1990–1991, the average graduation rate was 73.7 percent. By 2004–2005, the rate had increased modestly to 74.7.[13] How­ever, the most recent estimate for the 2005–2006 school year shows that the national freshman graduation rate has dipped to 73.4 percent.[14] A key focus of education reform efforts in recent decades has been to improve opportunities for disadvantaged students and to reduce the achievement gap between white students and ethnic minority children. Black and Hispanic students have improved test scores in both subjects across all student levels. However, the achievement gap persists, with black and Hispanic children still lagging behind their white peers despite decades of federal aid targeted at equalizing opportunities for all students. Similarly, in 2005–2006, the national high school graduation rate for white students (80.6 percent) remained significantly higher than the graduation rates of black students (59.1 percent) and Hispanic students (61.4 percent). We've been throwing more and more money at this for years, and despite the fact we spend more per capita on education than only 3 other nations on the planet (none of whom really compete with us at any level in the global economy - or chief competitors, Japan, China and India spend FAR less with much better outcomes) our education outcome remains stagnant, despite the massive increases in spending. I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion of what is wrong in California. California is FUBAR because it has far more obligations than it can possibly pay for. Californians are taxed at a higher rate than virtually any other population in the country. The problem is NOT that they don't have a large enough tax base or that the people aren't being taxed in the right way, the problem is that the number of producers are shrinking while the number of people who the government has to care for is increasing. In California, the balance of producers to users tipped the 50% mark years ago. As a nation, we are teetering at the same point in history for our country. 2010 will be the first time that the Social Security fund will not be able to meet Social Security obligations. ...yet we're jumping the deficit at an exponential rate, and doubling the debt in one shot. I don't want to debate who got us here. Fine, it was Bush - are you happy? ...but the answer, no matter how we got here, isn't to dig an EVEN BIGGER HOLE! We should not be following in the footsteps of California as a nation. ...yet we are. The lack of a property tax is the LEAST of California's problems.

Nope. If I need to give an explanation fir that answer, then you haven't been watching the last 3 years.