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The Fake Lonnie Finch
Both Wallace and Osborn were signed to other schools before going JUCO. Wallace with Oregon State and Osborn with Georgia Southern.

Wallace's first year JUCO stats
Sacramento City JC: 106 of 155 for 1,398 yards, 7 TDs/Unknown INTs - 25 rushes for 330 yards and 13 TD

Osborn's first (and only) JUCO year stats
Northwest Mississippi CC: 181 of 295 for 2,014 yards, 18 TDs/12 INT - 33 rushes for 78 yards and 3 TDs

The only unknown here is Wallace's Year One INT total. But, as far as comparison, Osborn threw the ball almost 30 times a game last season during his only JUCO year. He was responsible for 21 TDs.

Wallace threw half as many times as Osborn during his initial JUCO season. Passing and rushing, he accounted for 20 TDs.

Osborn's school went 9-1, Wallace's went 9-2. Both led winners.

Look, the plain truth is that Osborn has more experience than McNulty. He's got a year of, at least, JUCO ball under his belt. And, at a school who threw it around. I have a hard time believing Canales offense is so far out there that Osborn hasn't picked it up to the same degree McNulty is said to have.

Also, if you're into numbers, Osborn was a 3-star recruit. So, it's not like he was some stealth guy sitting out there the way Derek Thompson was when Dodge revealed his "secret" commitment.

It's hard to believe this 3-star recruit who threw almost 300 passes as a JUCO last season is so far behind this kid from Iowa that he can't even get on the playing field.

Harry
There was no letdown for Arkansas State on Saturday.

Coming off an 11-day break and in position to remain atop the Sun Belt Conference, the Red Wolves didn’t give in to rust or overconfidence. They rolled to a 37-14 victory against North Texas on homecoming in Jonesboro.

With the victory the Red Wolves secured bowl eligibility. ASU (6-2, 4-0) also improved to its best record through eight games since 1986 and has its first five-game winning streak since that same season.

“I was really pleased with the way our kids came out,” Coach Hugh Freeze said. “...I think the thing that impressed me most was the intensity level, and I was worried with the 11 days off – you aren’t sure how your kids are going to come out. We certainly preached all week long that we needed to prepare for this game just like we had prepared for all the others, and I think they got the message.”

ASU moved the football with ease, racking up 540 yards against the Mean Green. Quarterback Ryan Aplin threw for 322 yards and three touchdowns, completing 28 of 42 passes.

In what Freeze called the team’s best half of football, Arkansas State scored on five of six possessions to open the game. That gave the Red Wolves a 31-0 lead as they posted 365 yards, while holding North Texas to 82.

http://www.arkansassports360.com/27473/not-letdown-for-red-wolves-as-they-have-little-trouble-with-north-texas

Harry
With a name like ‘Apogee Stadium,’ there should be no doubt that the University of North Texas (UNT) was aiming for the utmost in green building with its new football stadium, and now the U.S. Green Building Council has recognized those efforts with LEED Platinum certification, making Apogee the first newly constructed collegiate football stadium in the nation to achieve this honor.

http://www.earthtechling.com/2011/10/one-mean-green-stadium-for-north-texas/

Harry
North Texas was right back in a familiar situation on Saturday night.

Starting quarterback Derek Thompson was on the sideline with a game-ending injury, a backup was in the game and the Mean Green’s offense was struggling.

That’s just what happened last year in a loss to Army and a month ago in a loss to Tulsa.

This time it was a concussion that knocked out Thompson on UNT’s second play from scrimmage, and Andrew McNulty was forced to take over in a 37-14 loss to Arkansas State at ASU Stadium.

“Derek has been playing really well and he went out really early,” UNT head coach Dan McCarney said. “I thought Andrew McNulty did some really positive things. You can see the competitor that he is and the toughness he has. It was good to see him score a couple of touchdowns in the second half.”

Read More: http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/sports/stories/DRC_untsider_1030.24e3bdac7.html

Harry
JONESBORO, Ark — Derek Thompson came into North Texas’ game against Arkansas State on Saturday night hoping to build on the finest performance of his career.

North Texas running back James Hamilton stiff-arms Arkansas State’s Don Jones during the first half Saturday in Jonesboro, Ark. Arkansas State won, 37-14, as UNT lost key players to injury.
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That opportunity — not to mention UNT’s chance to pick up consecutive wins for the first time since 2004 — vanished in a flash in the Mean Green’s 37-14 loss to the Red Wolves at ASU Stadium.

ASU defensive end Justin Robertson leveled Thompson with a vicious hit on the Mean Green’s second play from scrimmage, knocking UNT’s starting quarterback out for the night with a concussion.

The Mean Green struggled to get anything going without Thompson and had no chance to keep pace with the Sun Belt Conference’s top team.

ASU scored on five of its first six possessions, led 31-0 at halftime and coasted to its fifth straight win while spoiling UNT’s opportunity to build on a modest run that included three wins in five games.

“It was about as poor a half as we have played in the first half,” UNT head coach Dan McCarney said. “All I wanted to see after that was the grit and resolve and character of the team no matter what happened on the scoreboard. I think our kids showed that.”

Read More:

http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/drc/sports/stories/DRC_untfoot_1030.24e3f11d5.html

C Vo
The rental cost for High School Football playoff games at Apogee is.................
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$23,000.00!
That's $6,000.00 more than SMU's stadium!

I don't feel many High Schools will be able to afford the stadium at that rate.

ParksAndRecRick
I continue to be shocked by some of the football posts since the games yesterday! So, you can be shocked at this!

Most of the best Mean Green players graduated or left UNT after last season! Let's look at this....

June Jones at your favorite school in Dallas:

Year One---- 1-11 (only win was against I-AA team Texas State in close battle)

Year Two---- 8-5 (great season for SMU. Bowl victory) Non-conference wins inlcuded:
victory over I-AA S.F. Austin)

Year Three-- 7-7 (Bowl Loss)

Currently--- 5-3 (Probably Bowl Bound---maybe New Orleans)


Wow, the only difference is, y'all would have been calling for his firing after the first year.

To the member that said "all talk", regarding McCarney, you should be ashamed!

The member that called for numerous firing of coaches, you should be ashamed!

For those of you who expect this to be the best team in a very-improving SunBelt, you should be ashamed!


You have your rights to make your comments...so I decided I had the right to make mine!

For those new gomeangreen.com posters or fans,don't fall victim to the "doom and gloom" members.

However, I fully expect, "the doom and gloomers" to jump aboard the bandwagon as things get better. It is your history!

Got5onIt
Maybe Coach Mac sees in McNulty what he saw in Seneca Wallace? I saw Wallace play as a Sr at ISU and he was a helluva QB. He was an undersized, mobile QB with an average arm, but an excellent field general.

Anyone seen Wallace play as a Fresh & Soph? Did he even start as an underclassman?

Harry
Look I love our kids but if you watched the game tonight you can't sugarcoat the fact that ASU has a lot more talent than we do. Former ASU Coach Steve Roberts is making Freeze look real good right now. Mac wasn't given a great hand. When UNT is rolling out true freshman QB Andy McNulty who may be 185 soaking wet and throwing passes to walk-on Ivan Delgado who none of us knew a couple of weeks ago...you get my drift.

My point is everyone is unhappy about the game tonight but the person who left us in this mess is not here anymore to accept any of the blame.

I did feel we were outcoached in this game but superior talent, speed and size makes you look like a damn good coach.

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