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After leaving the Tavern, I decieed to donate to #occupydenton. As a registered Stock Broker I thought it would be kind of me to give back to those in need. I went to Jimmy Johns (a corporate company) and bought a loft of bread, and donated it to those who are camping out on fry. They have no food or water and as a person of corporate america I thought I should give back to those in need. Needless to say, they ate it......


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UNT90

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Maybe they could occupy the Hill. Perhaps they could scare some people into actually attending the game instead of continuing with the tailgate?

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Green P1

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Whenever I'm down there tonight to watch the World Series I plan on giving at least one of them a sandwich.

A knuckle sandwich.

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emmitt01

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Somebody send them a message that the "protest" has been moved to inside Apogee Saturday.

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KRAM1

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Wake me up when they figure out what it exactly is they are protesting about. Give me the old hippie (sorry Silver) protests of the 60's. Those folks KNEW how to protest...this bunch is just messin' around!

HeHe...

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Coffee and TV

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Wake me up when they figure out what it exactly is they are protesting about. Give me the old hippie (sorry Silver) protests of the 60's. Those folks KNEW how to protest...this bunch is just messin' around!

HeHe...

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Rudy

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Wake me up when they figure out what it exactly is they are protesting about. Give me the old hippie (sorry Silver) protests of the 60's. Those folks KNEW how to protest...this bunch is just messin' around!

HeHe...

I think they know why they are protesting, they just are mixed up where they should be protesting.

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KRAM1

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I think they know why they are protesting, they just are mixed up where they should be protesting.

Rudy...not a bad point....

But, if anyone thinks they actually know why they are protesting they should listen to the interviews of some of the self-appointed leadership. While they "think" they know what's going on, those that I have heard speak know very little about the causes of the recession, the role government plays in this mess, the way campaign finance works, the actual tax paid by various groups and corporations, etc., etc. and seem to be just parroting the news media, and many other liberal blogs and politicians. These folks have become the "Tea Party" of the liberals. Funny how they are opposed to $$$$ having an influence all the while taking large contributions for the the labor unions. Classic!

But, don't worry, those big labor unions will soon make sure they have a unified voice. So, they will definitely "know" soon enough because they will be TOLD why they are protesting.

March On...March On.......

Edit: Just to be clear here...I am talking about the DC and national "movement", not the "proud, the few, the misguided" who "Occupy Denton".

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kalebschumann

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I saw the Occupy Denton camp with my own eyes this weekend after the game... I can't believe it's real...

I don't know if they know how much they really need the 1% that they're protesting. I saw so many people using Coleman tents, wearing Rangers shirts, and eating Jimmy Johns. All of these are part of the 1% that they are protesting. Escaping the corporate 1% is nearly impossible. The 1% makes our lives livable.

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untbowler

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if they truly wanted to occupy somewhere they should be at the WH and National Captial, protesting Congress and their yearly raises now sitting at $160K a year plus very generous pension plans, but nope they are going after the job makers. Let me know know how it works when all the job makers say FU and leave.

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UNTflyer

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I see that OWS in NYC is now fighting amongst themselves on how to spend $500k in donations they have received. They have General Assembly meetings every night where a few of the privileged leaders ultimately make the final decision. In other words, their socialist utopia is already failing to provide for their members.

How ironic that their protest to end capitalism demonstrates exactly why we should NEVER end capitalism.

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untbowler

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I see that OWS in NYC is now fighting amongst themselves on how to spend $500k in donations they have received. They have General Assembly meetings every night where a few of the privileged leaders ultimately make the final decision. In other words, their socialist utopia is already failing to provide for their members.

How ironic that their protest to end capitalism demonstrates exactly why we should NEVER end capitalism.

To be fair locally the local Tea Party Chapter is fighting over the same crap and has caused many Tea Party Policy supporters to extricate ourselves from the chapter and go our own ways to support conservative candidates.

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Censored by Laurie

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How ironic that their protest to end capitalism demonstrates exactly why we should NEVER end capitalism.

I don't think you get it. I don't think I'm surprised.

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UNT90

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I don't think you get it. I don't think I'm surprised.

I don't think anyone gets it.

And I'm not surprised.

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UNTflyer

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I don't think you get it. I don't think I'm surprised.

I get the fact that these protests are MOSTLY comprised of the same old tired pro-socialist/communist brain-washed youth.

Except for this tired old hippie.

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UNTflyer

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To be fair locally the local Tea Party Chapter is fighting over the same crap and has caused many Tea Party Policy supporters to extricate ourselves from the chapter and go our own ways to support conservative candidates.

Apples and oranges. The OWS protestors are wanting the funds to provide them with with their basic needs during the protest - food, water, shelter, laundry, etc.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/they_want_lice_of_the_occu_pie_9xKCxcI4aectFYkafMb8UJ#ixzz1bcFSH0dM

UNTflyer

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Apples and oranges. The OWS protestors are wanting the funds to provide them with with their basic needs during the protest - food, water, shelter, laundry, etc.

http://www.nypost.co...J#ixzz1bcFSH0dM

BTW, where do you think they are keeping that $500k? My guess is that it is not stuffed in a mattress, but deposited at some evil bank.

KRAM1

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BTW, where do you think they are keeping that $500k? My guess is that it is not stuffed in a mattress, but deposited at some evil bank.

They now seem to be fighting over who will "control" and distribute that money. They have become a characterization of themselves! Too funny.

cwb

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Don't they know that they are making some poster board company wealthy?

UNTflyer

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No endorsing or attacking this article I saw via Gordon Keith on the Twitternets, but it is interesting: http://www.rollingst...eating-20111025

"They're protesting corruption on Wall Street."

See, I don't really buy this either. For most of these protestors, profit *is* the corruption. Profit is evil. Private ownership of industry is wrong. Anyone who makes money on things like energy, or health care, or whatever is an evil prick without a heart.

To say they are protesting corruption on Wall Street is too simple and innocuous, shielding the motives of many (not all) of the protestors. Those motives are to socialize/nationalize much of the country's top industries.

Are there problems on Wall Street? Sure, but they are not fundamental problems that can only be resolved by turning the capitalist system on its head. In capitalism or communism, someone at the top is going to steal money just because they can. Someone with a lot of money is going to have influence in the government, not necessarily because they are buying influence but the fact that their status as a leader of industry with thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of full-time employees and business and social contacts make that person one who can easily pick up a phone and ask their admin assistant to "get me the Senator."

And that is going to happen in a capitalist society, a fascist society, a communist society, or a meritocratic society. Given a choice... I'll take corruption and influence in a capitalist society than any of the others.

But Wall Street isn't "cheating" they are playing by the rules laid out by politicians... politicians who know the American people have a low tolerance for bad economic news. If the economy or the government budget problems can't be fixed in 6-8 weeks, we'll vote you out!!! So politicians have created an atmosphere where banks and business can artificially inflate profits or obtain massive interest-free loans or get government bailout money, ensuring they can go back home in campaign seson and talk about how he did all he could to get the economy back on track.

But that is not a creation of Wall Street... that was created by the people on Capitol Street. The Greenich Villagers are raising their torches and pitchforks at the monster, when they should be seeking its creator.

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KRAM1

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But that is not a creation of Wall Street... that was created by the people on Capitol Street. The Greenich Villagers are raising their torches and pitchforks at the monster, when they should be seeking its creator.

THIS! Right you are, Sir.

Monkeypox

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The problem with the idea that they're "cheating" is that there's no such thing. They're paying politicians to change the rules of the game for them. Again, if I had the money and power to "cheat" as much as the big banks do/are doing, hell yes I would. As my parents were always fond of reminding me "life ain't fair."

Now, I'm not defending the POLICIES that take place on Wall Street or within companies, but they have to have INCENTIVE not to cheat, and the only places that can come from are the public (through their wallets) and the government (through legislation).

But the hypocrisy of this movement, and most movements, comes the second you want to convert money into "voices heard." That makes you a lobby, and the problem stems from... lobbies.

Because I'm ONE GUY who forms my own opinions and political leanings. I don't have a group of like-minded folks with a ton of cash to agree with me on every issue, so I'd have to stand on a street corner or march to Washington alone, which pretty much just makes me a random crazy guy with a guitar (I'm assuming I'd learn guitar somewhere in here).

So then to get heard, I really need a group. The second you find a GROUP, well, then you have to adopt some ideas you don't necessarily agree with, because no two people think exactly alike. And besides, to get voices heard, the more the merrier. That's how party lines are formed. I mean, Monkeypox is pro-abortion, pro-nudity, anti-anti-smoking, and wants vehicles more than 14-ft long reserved only for commercial use, but this group is only in agreement on 75% of those things, and, within the makeup of the group, only me and finger-toe Sally agree on all of the exact same ones. But, regardless, we're now a group, with our official stances... we'll call ourselves the Monkeypoxicans.

So now, I've got myself a group of sorta like-minded individuals, but nobody cares. We gotta get backed by money (which comes, somewhere, from a value-added corporation). After all, we got mouths to feed and crappy cars to fix. We can't just take off and protest, or take a congressman to Chic-Fil-A on his lunch break. NOW I can get my voice heard by Washington. How? By hiring a lobbyist. We PAY a lobbyist to wear a fancy suit and go to dinner with politicians so they can flash around how much green we have and how, if this guy also believed in these things we semi-sorta-mostly agree on, then well, we could spend that green to help get him elected.

So then we funnel our money into his campaign, and he gets to have a bunch of commercials and signs and posters telling you that HE'S FOR WHAT WE'RE FOR, which, after all, is mostly-kinda-sorta-semi what you're for. And you like his good teeth and hair, so, sure, seems like a good fit. Together, we've gotten our guy elected.

Oh, and we also want to sterilize all male children under 18, and burn fat people for fuel. We just don't mention that in the campaign. We got our money from the good folks at Pfizer to give your young boys Depo shots. But don't worry, the money to pay for the shot will come out of a government fund paid for by your taxes... which is like free medical care. YOU'RE NOT PAYING PFIZER! THE GOVERNMENT IS!

So now you're sitting on your couch with your sterilized middle-school boy wondering "How the f- did it get like this?" And, while it's cool you've got a nice, 18-yr-old model-wife to replace that old one, you're upset about things, bc your kid's pretty sad. And THIS GUY isn't really YOUR GUY. Hell, he's not even REALLY Monkeypox's guy. SO you take the next logical step... you protest Pfizer.

But celebrate, gentlemen (and gentle-ladies), the Dow's up 300 points today.

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