MGB video: McCarney names top three in QB race

DAJON DAJON DAJON!!! At least he is creeping out of that Dog house!

i like the comments about the defense with the fronts and getting more speed out there in certain situations.

qb info was predictable, but at least we know means may be out of consideration.

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Not experienced with defensive formations, but when "odd front" is being thrown around, does that mean we are lining up a LB at the LOS, having a DE stand up, or taking the center head on?

Kinda curious to what that does, if anyone will indulge.

I felt like the major downside of last year was coming out of camp without a solid frontrunner at QB. Hopefully, this year will be different, regardless of the person. We just need a solid QB.

PLEASE Mr. Means. move up to #3

I felt like the major downside of last year was coming out of camp without a solid frontrunner at QB. Hopefully, this year will be different, regardless of the person. We just need a solid QB.

When was the last time UNT went into fall camp with a solid #1 QB? Scott Hall?

Not experienced with defensive formations, but when "odd front" is being thrown around, does that mean we are lining up a LB at the LOS, having a DE stand up, or taking the center head on?

Kinda curious to what that does, if anyone will indulge.

Ok the past few seasons we have been an "even" front team. That means 4 down lineman. "Odd" front means anywhere from 3/5/7 guys on the line. Most of the time it means taking a DL out and putting in another LB or DB. 3-4 is an odd front defense, 4-3 is an even front defense, 5-2 odd. Hope that clears things up.

When was the last time UNT went into fall camp with a solid #1 QB? Scott Hall?

He was rarely a solid #1 coming into each season. I think three out of the four years he played Dickey kept it up in the air with him and the others he was competing with.

He was rarely a solid #1 coming into each season. I think three out of the four years he played Dickey kept it up in the air with him and the others he was competing with.

It looked like he was going to be relegated to backup forever once AW took over after he got hurt.

Not experienced with defensive formations, but when "odd front" is being thrown around, does that mean we are lining up a LB at the LOS, having a DE stand up, or taking the center head on?

Kinda curious to what that does, if anyone will indulge.

Odd front means what shade the DL is playing. Generally speaking when a DL lines up directly over an OL/TE it would be an even shade (6,4,2), but if he lines up on the outside shoulder (9,7,5,3,1) that would be an odd technique. Inside shoulders are given an even number with i so 2i would be the inside should of a G. 1 would be the A gap between G an C, 3 would be the B gap between G and T. 5 is outside shoulder of T. 7 is inside shoulder of TE or completely outside an OT. 9 or wide 9 is outside should of TE or way way outside of OT. See Detroit Lions for a wide 9.

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Ok the past few seasons we have been an "even" front team. That means 4 down lineman. "Odd" front means anywhere from 3/5/7 guys on the line. Most of the time it means taking a DL out and putting in another LB or DB. 3-4 is an odd front defense, 4-3 is an even front defense, 5-2 odd. Hope that clears things up.

Awesome thanks. Interesting situations that would create...

Odd front means what shade the DL is playing. Generally speaking when a DL lines up directly over an OL/TE it would be an even shade (6,4,2,0), but if he lines up on the outside shoulder (9,7,5,3,1) that would be an odd technique. Inside shoulders are given an even number with i so 2i would be the inside should of a G. 1 would be the A gap between G an C, 3 would be the B gap between G and T. 5 is outside shoulder of T. 7 is inside shoulder of TE or completely outside an OT. 9 or wide 9 is outside should of TE or way way outside of OT. See Detroit Lions for a wide 9.

Ok so our DEs will get to use their speed more instead of having to go 1-on-1 with a tackle?

Odd front has nothing to do with where you are lined up..it is the # of players you have lined up. Even or odd amount of DL. I could line up in a 4,0,4 and that is not an even front. That is an odd front.

Odd front has nothing to do with where you are lined up..it is the # of players you have lined up. Even or odd amount of DL. I could line up in a 4,0,4 and that is not an even front. That is an odd front.

This is what I was thinking.

So we're thinking of standing up one of the DE's? Do we have the size for this kind of DL?

This is what I was thinking.

So we're thinking of standing up one of the DE's? Do we have the size for this kind of DL?

If you don't line up over the center, yes.

I'm thinking Cosh is sprinkling in some of his 3-3-5?

Means has been a little disappointing. He didn't have good stats out of high school, so I was hoping he'd show some signs by now. He didn't make a dent in the QB race last year, and he's 4th out of 4 this year. He's young, so those aren't necessarily bad signs, but they aren't good signs.

Hopefully Dajon can push Mcnulty and Greer, because we need a young QB to step up. No offense to Greer, but hopefully Dajon can pass him up for no reason other than the fact that he is younger and will be here once both Mcnulty and Damarcus Smith run out of eligibility. Coach Mac says they'll cut that group to 2 before spring ends, so it'll be interesting to see if that 2nd guy is Greer or Dajon.

Still don't get why Dillman isn't going to be given a look. I don't think he'll be our QB "savior". I just think he could be a solid CUSA QB if developed properly, and Means has been eliminated from the QB race early on for the 2nd straight spring, and Chumley is almost assuredly not going to stick at QB. Maybe the guy isn't Dillman, but either way this is an issue that needs to get addressed.

I think a lot of this odd front stuff has to do with Chad Polk and them playing to his strengths. I think they are giving him an opportunity to stand up and use his quickness to get to the QB in comparison him being down in a 3 point would allow an OT to get his hands on him quicker. This is also Cosh putting his fingerprints on the defense as Aldo is mentioning, a little 3-4/3-5-5. This will be good, by doing this it will allow the most athletic, fastest and best tackling 11 on the field.

I think a lot of this odd front stuff has to do with Chad Polk and them playing to his strengths. I think they are giving him an opportunity to stand up and use his quickness to get to the QB in comparison him being down in a 3 point would allow an OT to get his hands on him quicker. This is also Cosh putting his fingerprints on the defense as Aldo is mentioning, a little 3-4/3-5-5. This will be good, by doing this it will allow the most athletic, fastest and best tackling 11 on the field.

Using a 3-3-5 would make sense with Marshall as the Nickel.

Using a 3-3-5 would make sense with Marshall as the Nickel.

yep. i would bet we would see that look.

So, we are in trouble at QB next year. Last year was one of the worst QB performances by any team I've ever witnessed.

Excited to hear that the defense will be more versatile this year.

I see the defensive front making huge strides in 2015. A full year under the training of Coach Patrick for development plus the scheme nuances of Coach Cosh will pay dividends in a big way. Should hopefully compensate for the lack of experience at LB and in the secondary.

Still no fbs level QB. What's scarier? The QB position or the fact the defense is getting torched in practice by this sub-par offense?

I think a lot of this odd front stuff has to do with Chad Polk and them playing to his strengths. I think they are giving him an opportunity to stand up and use his quickness to get to the QB in comparison him being down in a 3 point would allow an OT to get his hands on him quicker. This is also Cosh putting his fingerprints on the defense as Aldo is mentioning, a little 3-4/3-5-5. This will be good, by doing this it will allow the most athletic, fastest and best tackling 11 on the field.

Chad Polk's a solid pass rusher, but I seriously doubt we'd change our scheme for a guy who isn't in our first huddle. Cosh has run some of this in his defense before, and I'm sure it's just something he wants to implement. We're just mixing it in, but that will help guys like Polk.