MGB: Tuesday practice wrap with QB update

So, they won't even consider Shanbour? Too bad. I don't think we are in any position to dismiss any candidates, scholarship or not.

Mini Mac is currently the No. 1

Awesome.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Rudy

So, they won't even consider Shanbour? Too bad. I don't think we are in any position to dismiss any candidates, scholarship or not.

That tweet SSP posted indicated that Shanbour is 5'10". That honestly might eliminate him from contention by default.

Plenty of QBs 6' and shorter have become very good FBS QBs, but in our system, with Mccarney, he likes tall QBs and running primarily under center the first few downs. It would be one thing if we had Shanbour in shotgun all game, but to have a 5'10" guy throwing from under center could be a major problem. That's why, if you look at the QBs we've offered under Mccarney, they've almost exclusively been 6'2", usually 6'3" and up, with the exception of Mcnulty, who is legitimately 6'1" and obviously wouldn't have been recruited here had there not been familiarity there. Fair or not, that's a major factor to consider.

Good to hear about Dajon having a good day. Hope he continues to raise and get back in favor with the coaches. Also, I know every indication had been that Dillman is going to play tight end here. I'm not saying that's not going to happen. I'm just saying I don't think Mccarney has earned the trust to not have any of his QB evaluations and decisions questioned. Or Coach Walsh, whose QBs have not had great success on the college level. At least not as long as we have so much uncertainty and question marks with the young QBs currently on the roster.

Edited March 25, 2015 by BillySee58

Anyone else depressed about our quarterback situation? Maybe DaMarcus Smith can be our savior in the fall but if McNulty is the best we've got then we won't win 5 games with our schedule.

Anyone else depressed about our quarterback situation? Maybe DaMarcus Smith can be our savior in the fall but if McNulty is the best we've got then we won't win 5 games with our schedule.

3 wins with McNulty as the best option.

Everyone better pray Smith gets eligible and that he can actually play.

3 wins with McNulty as the best option.

Everyone better pray Smith gets eligible and that he can actually play.

I can't disagree with that.

3 wins with McNulty as the best option.

Everyone better pray Smith gets eligible and that he can actually play.

I mean, if we're only gonna win three games, can we just put Greer out there? I kinda like his little happy feet penguin dance when he's under pressure. I makes me forget all about the scoreboard for a few blissful seconds.

I mean, if we're only gonna win three games, can we just put Greer out there? I kinda like his little happy feet penguin dance when he's under pressure. I makes me forget all about the scoreboard for a few blissful seconds.

Watching Greer play made me want to cry. Let's go with Dajon since he provides not only some exciting plays but some hilariously bad plays. In the UAB game he had some turnovers that I would have laughed so much if it hadn't been for my team.

Edited March 25, 2015 by NorthTexan95

Watching Greer play made me want to cry. Let's go with Dajon since he provides not only some exciting plays but some hilariously bad plays. In the UAB game he had some turnovers that I would have laughed so much if it hadn't been for my team.

I'm sensing a new strategy here. Going with the "best in practice" has gotten us nowhere. Let's instead aim for "Quarterback with the most embarrassing screw ups on ESPN sports night." If going with the best keeps backfiring, maybe we should engage in a race to the bottom, throw out the worst, and see if it will backfire in a good way.

Coach Walsh, whose QBs have not had great success on the college level. At least not as long as we have so much uncertainty and question marks with the young QBs currently on the roster.

What?

Based on what? JW?

What?

Based on what? JW?

Jarrett Lee, Kirby Freeman, and Colby Freeman. JW has been the best of his bunch so far.

UNT is moving to more of a fast-paced offense that will be simplified from last season. The idea is to give UNT’s quarterbacks less to think about and allow them to go and play the game. That should help Williams, who UNT has always liked from the standpoint of his raw athletic ability.

This is exactly right. And it doesn't sound like an offense that is geared around having an experienced senior as the starter. It sounds like an offense geared for somebody else...

Lets hope that someone is on campus this fall...

Jarrett Lee, Kirby Freeman, and Colby Freeman. JW has been the best of his bunch so far.

I'm confused.

You just cited 2 NFL quarterbacks.

This is exactly right. And it doesn't sound like an offense that is geared around having an experienced senior as the starter. It sounds like an offense geared for somebody else...

even if its mcnulty (might as well prepare myself)

a fast paced, simplified offense will help his game since one of his assets is running. hopefully the simplified offense gets more playmakers on the field. player with some speed.

glad to hear rex was in there...but then again, we got fooled this time last year with the backs.

I'm confused.

You just cited 2 NFL quarterbacks.

I guess you can call Lee a NFL QB even though he got cut before the regular season. Saying Kirby Freeman was a NFL QB is like saying Derek Thompson was an NFL QB. I don't think he ever made it to a training camp.

The point was all 3 were disappointments with the hype and expectations that surrounded them coming out of HS.

Would fast paced offense mean fast decision making? Not sure if that's McNulty's game.

I guess you can call Lee a NFL QB even though he got cut before the regular season. Saying Kirby Freeman was a NFL QB is like saying Derek Thompson was an NFL QB. I don't think he ever made it to a training camp.

The point was all 3 were disappointments with the hype and expectations that surrounded them coming out of HS.

Soooo...

We are suggesting that Walsh has a low success rate producing QB's based on the knowledge that they weren't 5 star, 7 figure pro quarterbacks? Just trying to understand correctly.....

Edited March 25, 2015 by SSP

For the life of me, I can't fathom why Greer would be #2. Ever.

For the life of me, I can't fathom why Greer would be #2. Ever.

Probably "looks great at practice".

"For the life of me, I can't fathom why Greer would be #2. Ever."

Probably "looks great at practice".

and that he knows all the plays and reads...pre snap.

I guess you can call Lee a NFL QB even though he got cut before the regular season. Saying Kirby Freeman was a NFL QB is like saying Derek Thompson was an NFL QB. I don't think he ever made it to a training camp.

The point was all 3 were disappointments with the hype and expectations that surrounded them coming out of HS.

Yeah, that was my point. None of them ever locked down a starting QB spot for a whole season. Freeman never passed for 1000 yards in a season. If you think about it, there are about 50 senior QBs and only 32 NFL teams. When you eliminate the QBs who are too short or don't have strong enough arms, guys like Freeman get rookie and training camp invites, even if they weren't all that good college QBs.

But none of those QBs ever won a starting QB job before the season and held onto it for an entire season. That's my point.

Soooo...

We are suggesting that Walsh has a low success rate producing QB's based on the knowledge that they weren't 5 star, 7 figure pro quarterbacks? Just trying to understand correctly.....

No. We're not evaluating them by their rating out of high school or their NFL earnings. We're basing our evaluations of them based on their success in college, and none of them ever held a starting job for 1 full season. Maybe they aren't busts, but they didn't live up to their hype, as meangreen15 said. Edited March 25, 2015 by BillySee58

The only real redeeming aspect for me is that I can at least rest assured that this will indeed be McNulty's last year.

Just imagine being told 2-3 years ago that he would likely be the starting QB in 2015...

Just shocking that McNulty is the #1 QB--its almost as if Coach Mac trusts him more than anyone else on the roster at QB...oh wait...

Andrew McNulty will be under center in Dallas for the opener in our alternate home game. And he will get the majority of snaps all season long. He is the Bus Driver du Jour here. The DT comparisons are about to get put into overdrive in the upcoming months, even if McNulty isn't as good as DT was here.

I thought we would win about 3-4 games with DT as our QB in 2013, but our defense and special teams were so awesome, we won 9 games instead. I don't see either of those being close to that 2013 team and our QB play is worse, all while we add in a much harder schedule and only 5 home games. Winning more than 4 games in 2015 would be strongly exceeding expectations to me. I see SMU, Portland State, UTEP, and UTSA as possible wins. After that, they are all either probable losses or just collect the check and hope it doesn't bounce losses.

2016 is the year to get back to 5 or 6 wins, then 2017 is when I see us getting back to that 7+ win plateau again--and that is being optimistic. If we cannot get a decent QB in here to run the most boring offense in the country and actually make decent throws down field, the next three seasons under Coach Mac may not combine to give us 10 wins. I think you have to ready yourself for that possibility if he cannot make any head way with better QBs than we have had since he's been here, unless, of course, we get back to a defense and special teams play like we had in 2013 or under Dickey from 2002-2004. That's the only way you can win here with this offensive philosophy. Otherwise, in the Dickey/Mac years, you have averaged a little over 3 wins when the defense and ST aren't awesome.

Edited March 25, 2015 by untjim1995