***OFFICIAL UNT vs. UTSA IN-GAME DISCUSSION***

best of luck to Brent -- he's been a good soldier here and I'm glad to hear he got his degree. He will be the guy this season if DT gets hurt.

In 2013 I think we are looking at DT and Berglund competing for the starting spot which is a good thing for all involved. Minimac will be back after using his redshirt year and you should have D Williams available in the case of an emergency.

Have I stated that Berglund will start next season?

Good luck Brent. Appreciate your time with the Mean Green. All the best going forward.

I wouldn't come back either.

We'll, that's one way to end a quarterback controversy. Good luck Osborn. I would have loved to see you play more here. Sorry it didn't work out that way.

I'm sad about this because I wanted to see the kid play. He put up some good numbers at his JUCO. I wonder if he'll go into a grad program and play somewhere for a year. I hope so.

Well, putting things in perspective, it is most important in the long run that he was able to get his degree. Now we have to give him a shot right? Hopefully we can at least get a big lead in the South Alabama game, but as slow as we have been starting I wouldn't expect it.

A lot of us, myself included, complain about DT's football playing ability but in all honesty this season has had to have been extremely tough on Osborn. Seeing the guy in front of you struggle and show no signs of improvement for 2 years while never being given the chance to show what you can do is extremely tough. I think he'll find a place next year and hopefully he'll get a shot.

I'm sad about this because I wanted to see the kid play. He put up some good numbers at his JUCO. I wonder if he'll go into a grad program and play somewhere for a year. I hope so.

My thoughts exactly. Hope he goes to a quality FCS program and kicks some butt. BOL.

Good luck to Osborn and congrats on his degree.

So as long as he does not take a snap this year, he will still have one year of eligibility left. Right? If this is his plan, don't know if it is possible that he graduates in December, but if he does he can enroll somewhere in time for Spring practice. Regardless, wish him well.

I'm sad about this because I wanted to see the kid play. He put up some good numbers at his JUCO. I wonder if he'll go into a grad program and play somewhere for a year. I hope so.

My thoughts exactly. Hope he goes to a quality FCS program and kicks some butt. BOL.

Since he graduated, he can go to an FBS program and play right away, as long as he enrolls in a graduate program not offered at UNT. I assume that's what the Fake was referring to. Either way, I also wish Brent all the best.

He played in the LSU game

congrats to him on graduating... and being able to take advantage of the one NCAA rule that makes sense... being able to transfer without penalties once you graduate

After the game last week I said in a thread that if I was Osborn I would transfer or quit. If they weren't going to give him a shot last week they're never going to. It's a shame, he deserved an opportunity to see the field.

I thought when he committed to UNT that he was a sure bet to win the starting QB job from day one.

good luck, Brent sorry you got a raw deal, but at least you get a degree

Congrats Ozzy, good luck in whatever your future holds.

Don't forget that Derik Thompson already has his degree and could do the same thing if he decides that he is not going to be the starter next year OR if he decides that it is just time to get on with the rest of his life. We could be losing both our quarterbacks with playing experience before the start of next year. Wouldn't THAT be interesting?

He played in the LSU game

He also played in the MUTS game on the kickoff team.

QB depth takes another hit. Need 2 more in this class, 3 if Williams was recruited as an athlete, which is very possible.

Edited October 30, 2012 by UNT90

QB depth takes another hit. Need 2 more in this class, 3 if Williams was recruited as an athlete, which is very possible.

I think we get 1 more along with Williams, who was recruited as a QB. LSR, the Rivals Texas site, has him as one of the Top QB's in the state.

http://texas.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1390771&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Edited October 30, 2012 by H-towngreen

Can't believe mac hasn't given the kid a chance to prove it on the field. I will never get why Mac didn't put ozzy in when we were down 20+ to Houston in the 4th.

Edited October 30, 2012 by mgfan

I think we get 1 more along with Williams, who was recruited as a QB. LSR, the Rivals Texas site, has him as one of the Top QB's in the state.

http://texas.rivals....=&tid=&mid==

Well, I guess if you believe one site inside of Rivals. If you believe rivals as a whole,. not so much.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dajon-Williams-128810

One offer from Montana and doesn't even show committed to UNT. No stars.

ESPN does show him committed, but with no other offer but Montana, 69 grade, 2 stars:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/130854/dajon-williams

24/7 shows us as the only offer, a grade of 75, 2 star:

http://247sports.com/Player/Dajon-Williams-13408

Let me preface this by saying I fully hope that Dajon Williams is the QB that will lead us to the promised land. Lord knows we have been waiting long enough. But, what good smaller programs do (the Boise Sts. and TCU's, well, once upon a time for them) is get the best athletes available and find a way to get them on the field. Many QBs turn into safeties, Linebackers, wide receivers, etc... There is nothing wrong with this practice, and I could see this kid headed that way.

You only have to look to Cooper Jones on this very team to see that very idea in practice. Cooper Jones was even rated higher than Williams (a 3 star, as I recall). The college game is VERY different than high school.

Nothing about Williams actual numbers in high school scream college QB. For those who think he will contribute immediately, perhaps you should look at the 177lbs he is carrying on a 6'3" frame. This kid is headed for a redshirt, a big calorie meal plan, and a lot of time in the weight room.

What if he comes out at 235lbs?

Lots of options for where this kid plays. I'll be surprised if it ends up being QB.

Well, I guess if you believe one site inside of Rivals. If you believe rivals as a whole,. not so much.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Dajon-Williams-128810

One offer from Montana and doesn't even show committed to UNT. No stars.

ESPN does show him committed, but with no other offer but Montana, 69 grade, 2 stars:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/130854/dajon-williams

24/7 shows us as the only offer, a grade of 75, 2 star:

http://247sports.com/Player/Dajon-Williams-13408

Let me preface this by saying I fully hope that Dajon Williams is the QB that will lead us to the promised land. Lord knows we have been waiting long enough. But, what good smaller programs do (the Boise Sts. and TCU's, well, once upon a time for them) is get the best athletes available and find a way to get them on the field. Many QBs turn into safeties, Linebackers, wide receivers, etc... There is nothing wrong with this practice, and I could see this kid headed that way.

You only have to look to Cooper Jones on this very team to see that very idea in practice. Cooper Jones was even rated higher than Williams (a 3 star, as I recall). The college game is VERY different than high school.

Nothing about Williams actual numbers in high school scream college QB. For those who think he will contribute immediately, perhaps you should look at the 177lbs he is carrying on a 6'3" frame. This kid is headed for a redshirt, a big calorie meal plan, and a lot of time in the weight room.

What if he comes out at 235lbs?

Lots of options for where this kid plays. I'll be surprised if it ends up being QB.

I doubt he moves to another position. Anything can happen though.

I'm sure he will get a shot at QB, but if he can't crack the 2 deep, and he wants to play without transferring, then he will move positions.