A Look Back @ the 2011 North Texas Signing Class

I think your comments are spot on. This class could really turn out to be one of the best in recent memory especially if the redshirt players produce like expected. This class and the current 2012 class could really turn this program around.

Nice analysis...

Brooks seemed to have some real potential... that was a HUGE bummer. I like how you left it open ended for him to possibly resurface. that would be nice, but I'm not holding my breathe.

Our O-line looks to be in good shape for the next couple of years. 1 played every game(?) and 4 others redshirted plus cam feldt? wow man. That should be a lot of beef to come in and provide lots of competition and depth. Maybe we can get Vito to stop referring to QB at UNT as being the most dangerous job in America... and of course, turn the next crop of RB's into stars!

we shall see about the rest of the d-line recruits.

I wonder if any of these DE's will end up being DT's. Interesting...eat boys eat...

I am very interested to see where cooper jones ends up on the team. Intriguing size and all...and rated well out of high school. Guess we'll see...

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Plenty of contributors which is great but in addition I see 4 difference makers 3 of which are FR. I expect the next class to be even better with a full year to recruit. You stack a few of these classes on top of each other and we have a contender in the Sun Belt. Yes, I said contender because the Sun Belt is getting much more competitive. This already is fun to watch and will only get better.

In a few years we might just see us win a few of those SEC/Big XII games we schedule. We should be competitive when we start our series against that Big East team from Dallas.

Great thread, Harry. The stat I heard the other day about Lemon is the most impressive stat I've heard in quid a while. Zero penalties the whole year as a starting true freshman. Pretty amazing. If he carries that discipline over to off season workout and improvement, look out Sun Belt next year.

I also like the fact that Coach Mac was able to redshirt half the freshman class (someone tell Vito that there WAS some talent left over from the Dodge days). I would love to see this remain as a pattern during Coach Mac's tenure.

Next year should be very interesting.

Edited December 27, 2011 by UNT90

Plenty of contributors which is great but in addition I see 4 difference makers 3 of which are FR. I expect the next class to be even better with a full year to recruit. You stack a few of these classes on top of each other and we have a contender in the Sun Belt. Yes, I said contender because the Sun Belt is getting much more competitive. This already is fun to watch and will only get better.

In a few years we might just see us win a few of those SEC/Big XII games we schedule. We should be competitive when we start our series against that Big East team from Dallas.

I agree - we should be at least 7-5 next year - going to a post season game.

Plenty of contributors which is great but in addition I see 4 difference makers 3 of which are FR. I expect the next class to be even better with a full year to recruit. You stack a few of these classes on top of each other and we have a contender in the Sun Belt. Yes, I said contender because the Sun Belt is getting much more competitive. This already is fun to watch and will only get better.

In a few years we might just see us win a few of those SEC/Big XII games we schedule. We should be competitive when we start our series against that Big East team from Dallas.

I wish I could agree about winning a few of those SEC/Big XII games. There is a huge difference in playing LSU, Alabama, UT, and OU (as we do), and playing Ole Miss or Texas Tech. I don't have a problem playing SEC/Big XII games, I just wish sometimes we would play one that isn't ranked in the top 5.

I wish I could agree about winning a few of those SEC/Big XII games. There is a huge difference in playing LSU, Alabama, UT, and OU (as we do), and playing Ole Miss or Texas Tech. I don't have a problem playing SEC/Big XII games, I just wish sometimes we would play one that isn't ranked in the top 5.

If UT continues down the current path, I can see the 2014 UT game being competitive.

Please let Mac (I do less with more) Brown hang around that long.

Good analysis Harry. Only one player, Brooks, did not pan out. And maybe two if Greer doesn't resurface. At worst only two from the 2011 signing class. I could be wrong, but that seems to be fewer "dropouts" than in previous classes.

Regarding Lemon, think about his accomplishments. True freshman started all 12 games, no penalties, and made All Sunbelt.

Mark it- Barring injury and continuing on the same trend, Cyril Lemon will be UNT's next All-America by his Senior Year.

If UT continues down the current path, I can see the 2014 UT game being competitive.

Please let Mac (I do less with more) Brown hang around that long.

I read today where Deloss and Mack are ironing out a contract extension.

I read today where Deloss and Mack are ironing out a contract extension.

I really hope so. Brown does have a national title, but the fact that he is going the JUCO route (even if they are really good Jucos) shows a little panick on Brown's part. He is only as good as his assistants, and 7-5 ain't gonna cut it in Austin very much longer.

Here is to hoping those 5-7 and 7-5 seasons continue.

Edited December 27, 2011 by UNT90

I could be wrong, but that seems to be fewer "dropouts" than in previous classes.

Good point and I address that particular issue here.

Good analysis Harry. Only one player, Brooks, did not pan out. And maybe two if Greer doesn't resurface. At worst only two from the 2011 signing class. I could be wrong, but that seems to be fewer "dropouts" than in previous classes.

Regarding Lemon, think about his accomplishments. True freshman started all 12 games, no penalties, and made All Sunbelt.

Mark it- Barring injury and continuing on the same trend, Cyril Lemon will be UNT's next All-America by his Senior Year.

I think Z. Orr has a chance barring injury. He was our best player this season before he was hurt.

Nice analysis...

Brooks seemed to have some real potential... that was a HUGE bummer. I like how you left it open ended for him to possibly resurface. that would be nice, but I'm not holding my breathe.

Our O-line looks to be in good shape for the next couple of years. 1 played every game(?) and 4 others redshirted plus cam feldt? wow man. That should be a lot of beef to come in and provide lots of competition and depth. Maybe we can get Vito to stop referring to QB at UNT as being the most dangerous job in America... and of course, turn the next crop of RB's into stars!

we shall see about the rest of the d-line recruits.

I wonder if any of these DE's will end up being DT's. Interesting...eat boys eat...

I am very interested to see where cooper jones ends up on the team. Intriguing size and all...and rated well out of high school. Guess we'll see...

spring football story lines

I'm not trying to "bring down" a player, but I'm telling you folks, I would be highly surprised if Cam ever starts a game here. Cam only had one offer, and that was from Arkansas who's recruiting coordinater at the time was his dad's best friend. I think people are expecting a dominant player since he came from an SEC program, but that was in fact his only FBS offer due to the relationship his dad had at the time. Cam doesn't have the footwork or motor Boone has. Again, I would love to see the kid succeed, but I expect Boone to be a lot better before all is said and done. And I think it would be wise to let the mean green faithful know now, instead of everyone expecting him to be an immediate improvement over Matt Tomlinson at RT next season. It wouldn't surprise me to see a FR come in and take the RT spot. Who knows who will be starting their next season, it could be Micah Thompson, LaChris Anyiam, Grant Shaw, Chase Walling, or Sam Rice. The good thing about all these players is they have legit FBS size and then some. OL should be a bright spot for the next 3 or 4 years with Johnson, Y'Barbo and Lemon here for 3 more years plus the incoming recruits.

Edited December 27, 2011 by ntmeangreen11

I'm not trying to "bring down" a player, but I'm telling you folks, I would be highly surprised if Cam ever starts a game here. Cam only had one offer, and that was from Arkansas who's recruiting coordinater at the time was his dad's best friend. I think people are expecting a dominant player since he came from an SEC program, but that was in fact his only FBS offer due to the relationship his dad had at the time. Cam doesn't have the footwork or motor Boone has. Again, I would love to see the kid succeed, but I expect Boone to be a lot better before all is said and done. And I think it would be wise to let the mean green faithful know now, instead of everyone expecting him to be an immediate improvement over Matt Tomlinson at RT next season. It wouldn't surprise me to see a FR come in and take the RT spot. Who knows who will be starting their next season, it could be Micah Thompson, LaChris Anyiam, Grant Shaw, Chase Walling, or Sam Rice. The good thing about all these players is they have legit FBS size and then some. OL should be a bright spot for the next 3 or 4 years with Johnson, Y'Barbo and Lemon here for 3 more years plus the incoming recruits.

Rivals shows him with offers from Baylor and Texas Tech, and ESPN had him rated as the #93 overall player in the country in 2010.

Rivals Profile

Again, I'm not trying to bring down the player, I watched him and Boone play in high school and I never saw anything that impressed me that much. I also know some people who played with him and Boone and I just don't see him as an impact lineman at the FBS level. That highlight tape is good and all, but if you'll notice he's blocking 150-190 pound DE's in the clips. Boone will have a bigger impact here than Cam will. I'd love for Cam to prove me wrong of course, he has the size to do it but size alone won't cut it at this level. I just wouldn't want people to get their hopes up too much that he'll be an All SBC type player next season, because that's not the case. He might play somewhere down the line, but I don't expect it to be next year.

It's likely other SEC schools knew of the Feldt's relationship with UA coaches and didn't waste their time recruiting him.

Always leery of the major college transfer who couldn't crack the 2 deep at the big school. Hopefully there were some special circumstances in Cam's case and he can come in and be a contributor immediately.

We need look no further than Tyler Stradford to realize that 4 star ranking and major college transfer doesn't necessarily mean the kid can play FBS football.

Again, I'm not trying to bring down the player, I watched him and Boone play in high school and I never saw anything that impressed me that much. I also know some people who played with him and Boone and I just don't see him as an impact lineman at the FBS level. That highlight tape is good and all, but if you'll notice he's blocking 150-190 pound DE's in the clips. Boone will have a bigger impact here than Cam will. I'd love for Cam to prove me wrong of course, he has the size to do it but size alone won't cut it at this level. I just wouldn't want people to get their hopes up too much that he'll be an All SBC type player next season, because that's not the case. He might play somewhere down the line, but I don't expect it to be next year.

Totally understand and appreciate your insight.

Nice analysis...

Brooks seemed to have some real potential... that was a HUGE bummer. I like how you left it open ended for him to possibly resurface. that would be nice, but I'm not holding my breathe.

Our O-line looks to be in good shape for the next couple of years. 1 played every game(?) and 4 others redshirted plus cam feldt? wow man. That should be a lot of beef to come in and provide lots of competition and depth. Maybe we can get Vito to stop referring to QB at UNT as being the most dangerous job in America... and of course, turn the next crop of RB's into stars!

we shall see about the rest of the d-line recruits.

I wonder if any of these DE's will end up being DT's. Interesting...eat boys eat...

I am very interested to see where cooper jones ends up on the team. Intriguing size and all...and rated well out of high school. Guess we'll see...

spring football story lines

I talked to Brooks the day he left the team.

His "issues" happen to college players on occasion and could have been worked around, but he had already made up his mind.

I think he was planning on enrolling at "Truck Masters" or something like that.

And, from what he related of his converstaion with Coach Mac, he would not be welcomed back.

I've heard some of the same concerns about Cam, but he was a 4 star rated recruit. It seems Boone is expected to be a Center when all is said and done. I don't know if Fortenberry stays at Center, but he is highly versatile. Footwork is key for a OT, so I really don't know who takes Tomlinson's spot, but I like our options, and as ntmeangreen11 stated, it is nice to have true FBS size and depth.

"13. Zach Whitfield - RB, 5-11, 200, 4.49, Sherman HS TX - Coached by Gary Kinne. 1st Team 9-4A Selection. Had interest from Tennessee after his junior season and offers from NMSU and Sam Houston. Whitfield redshirted in 2011. With Dunbar's graduation he will be in the running for the #1 spot in 2012."

Baylor made a late push for Zac also, at least according to Zac's mom.

With this such a varied thread I hesitate to bring this up but are we certain that Swarn will get a redshirt? He appeared in two games last year...FAU and Louisiana and given how the NCAA seems to stick it to us on eligibility can we be sure that he did not lose a year's eligibility?

He appeared in two games last year...FAU and Louisiana

Are you sure about that? I don't recall him playing at all.

But obviously if that's correct, he will be a sophomore next year.

With this such a varied thread I hesitate to bring this up but are we certain that Swarn will get a redshirt? He appeared in two games last year...FAU and Louisiana and given how the NCAA seems to stick it to us on eligibility can we be sure that he did not lose a year's eligibility?

If he played, he will be a sophomore unless he gets a medical shirt. However, if you are going by the box score participation report; those are always filled with errors.